Tuning question - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

irish108 · 03-18-2019, 02:18 PM

I just bought a 2010 2SS 6 speed manual LS3. It has a K&N cold air system on it and Borla mufflers. As far as I can tell that's it. I have no idea whether it's been tuned or not and neither did the Dealer. Let's just say it has, my question is, will the tuner work on top of a tune that already exists? Any info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.

hrpiii · 03-18-2019, 02:23 PM

there would be no need to have a tune on it if that is all that has been added. The big, most common tune comes when you add headers. But if another tuner is going to touch it, shouldn't be a problem upgrading the tune.

ChibiBlackSheep · 03-18-2019, 02:29 PM

How are you planning on doing a tune? Typically the tuner would pull the tune that is currently on the car, and then read data and make adjustments. So if it's already been tuned, the tuner will be working from that tune and making adjustments to air and fuel if needed.

irish108 · 03-18-2019, 02:48 PM

I was thinking of buying a Tuner/programmer (not sure which brand yet) to see if it would help boost it a little. Just can't resist the temptation.

irish108 · 03-18-2019, 02:49 PM

By the way, that's a sweet pair of camaro's you got there.

ChibiBlackSheep · 03-18-2019, 03:07 PM

Thank you very much.

I wouldn't bother with a handheld tuner on your manual. They are decent enough for automatics because they can firm up shifts, but you have full control over that.

If you think a tune is worthwhile, I would get a street/dyno tune from a local shop that specializes in your engine type.

But mostly, I would save up money and swap that K&N for a z28 intake, get a pair of longtubes and then get a tune.

Matt8892(2) · 03-18-2019, 03:17 PM

I second that. Do long tubes then just get a dyno tune done

irish108 · 03-18-2019, 03:57 PM

Thanks fellows. Looking forward to spending time on this forum.

pnwdan · 03-18-2019, 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChibiBlackSheep

Thank you very much.

I wouldn't bother with a handheld tuner on your manual. They are decent enough for automatics because they can firm up shifts, but you have full control over that.

If you think a tune is worthwhile, I would get a street/dyno tune from a local shop that specializes in your engine type.

But mostly, I would save up money and swap that K&N for a z28 intake, get a pair of longtubes and then get a tune.

I disagree about the tune. I have had Jannetty do all of my tunes for my bolt on mods via email and a hand held SCT. If you are not doing anything more than the same I highly recommend just getting one from him. Dont waste your money on a dyno tune for bolt on mods.

pyroguy · 03-18-2019, 08:45 PM

First off, OP welcome to the forums!

As for the dealership not being able to tell if your car has been tuned or not is rather fishy from the dealership. They can tell. Even if it's not a Chevy dealer, they should still be able to tell. However, given the limited mods on your car I'd venture to guess that your car likely isn't tuned.

As others have said, if you're getting a tune you might as well add a few extra mods to it before tuning it such as long tube headers. The reason you'll want/need to tune after installing long tube headers is that you'll throw a check engine light (CEL) after they're installed because of the increased flow between the O2 sensors as well as the different placement of the primary O2 sensor.

To answer your primary question, yes a tune can be done on top of a tune. I had my car tuned by Jeremy Formato of Fasterproms when I lived in PA after I had my headers installed and I just had it re-tuned by Shane Hinds of Shanehindstuning via CBI Street Cars after having a Brian Tooley Stage II NA cam installed. Two different tuners, two different tunes over time, one current tune. I like a dyno tune along with a street tune over just a street tune or a hand held tuner if for no other reason, you get a print out of what power your car made. Hand held tuners are also somewhat limited on what you can do overall vs. a custom dyno tune. Not saying that they don't have value, but you can have your car custom tailored to work more optimally with someone custom tuning it vs a hand held, IMO.

penak · 03-19-2019, 12:22 PM

subscribed, this seems like a very interesting thread

Joecruiser · 03-19-2019, 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penak

subscribed, this seems like a very interesting thread

Yes it is...welcome OP. Like you, I'm still figuring out what to do next.

03-18-2019, 02:18 PM	#1
irish108 Drives: chevrolet camaro Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: south carolina Posts: 28	Tuning question I just bought a 2010 2SS 6 speed manual LS3. It has a K&N cold air system on it and Borla mufflers. As far as I can tell that's it. I have no idea whether it's been tuned or not and neither did the Dealer. Let's just say it has, my question is, will the tuner work on top of a tune that already exists? Any info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.

03-18-2019, 02:29 PM	#3
ChibiBlackSheep Drives: 2012 2SS/RS, 1968 SS Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Southeast, PA Posts: 2,095	How are you planning on doing a tune? Typically the tuner would pull the tune that is currently on the car, and then read data and make adjustments. So if it's already been tuned, the tuner will be working from that tune and making adjustments to air and fuel if needed. __________________ LS3 Crate Engine Swap \| CSP Custom Cam 232/240 .615/.615 113 +3 \| Stainless Power LT Headers \| Z28 Intake \| Borla S-Type Exhaust \| FTI Triple-Disc Billet 3200 Stall 2012 Camaro 2SS/RS \| 1968 Camaro SS \| 2020 Cadillac CT5 Premium Luxury \| 2021 Spark LS

03-18-2019, 03:07 PM	#6
ChibiBlackSheep Drives: 2012 2SS/RS, 1968 SS Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Southeast, PA Posts: 2,095	Thank you very much. I wouldn't bother with a handheld tuner on your manual. They are decent enough for automatics because they can firm up shifts, but you have full control over that. If you think a tune is worthwhile, I would get a street/dyno tune from a local shop that specializes in your engine type. But mostly, I would save up money and swap that K&N for a z28 intake, get a pair of longtubes and then get a tune. __________________ LS3 Crate Engine Swap \| CSP Custom Cam 232/240 .615/.615 113 +3 \| Stainless Power LT Headers \| Z28 Intake \| Borla S-Type Exhaust \| FTI Triple-Disc Billet 3200 Stall 2012 Camaro 2SS/RS \| 1968 Camaro SS \| 2020 Cadillac CT5 Premium Luxury \| 2021 Spark LS

03-18-2019, 03:17 PM	#7
Matt8892(2) Drives: Black camaro 2ss 45th Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Central NJ Posts: 359	I second that. Do long tubes then just get a dyno tune done Last edited by Matt8892(2); 03-18-2019 at 03:17 PM. Reason: A word

03-18-2019, 08:45 PM	#10
pyroguy Started#gottalovethatblue Drives: ABM #831 Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: TN Posts: 6,923 View My Garage	First off, OP welcome to the forums! As for the dealership not being able to tell if your car has been tuned or not is rather fishy from the dealership. They can tell. Even if it's not a Chevy dealer, they should still be able to tell. However, given the limited mods on your car I'd venture to guess that your car likely isn't tuned. As others have said, if you're getting a tune you might as well add a few extra mods to it before tuning it such as long tube headers. The reason you'll want/need to tune after installing long tube headers is that you'll throw a check engine light (CEL) after they're installed because of the increased flow between the O2 sensors as well as the different placement of the primary O2 sensor. To answer your primary question, yes a tune can be done on top of a tune. I had my car tuned by Jeremy Formato of Fasterproms when I lived in PA after I had my headers installed and I just had it re-tuned by Shane Hinds of Shanehindstuning via CBI Street Cars after having a Brian Tooley Stage II NA cam installed. Two different tuners, two different tunes over time, one current tune. I like a dyno tune along with a street tune over just a street tune or a hand held tuner if for no other reason, you get a print out of what power your car made. Hand held tuners are also somewhat limited on what you can do overall vs. a custom dyno tune. Not saying that they don't have value, but you can have your car custom tailored to work more optimally with someone custom tuning it vs a hand held, IMO. __________________ '10 Camaro 2SS/RS \| Aqua Blue #831 of 3,903 \| Silver Stripes Check out my build thread

03-18-2019, 02:23 PM	#2
hrpiii AKA "Beefcake" Drives: 2023 ZL1 Sharkskin Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Indy Posts: 8,530	there would be no need to have a tune on it if that is all that has been added. The big, most common tune comes when you add headers. But if another tuner is going to touch it, shouldn't be a problem upgrading the tune.

03-18-2019, 02:48 PM	#4
irish108 Drives: chevrolet camaro Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: south carolina Posts: 28	I was thinking of buying a Tuner/programmer (not sure which brand yet) to see if it would help boost it a little. Just can't resist the temptation.

03-18-2019, 02:49 PM	#5
irish108 Drives: chevrolet camaro Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: south carolina Posts: 28	By the way, that's a sweet pair of camaro's you got there.

03-18-2019, 03:57 PM	#8
irish108 Drives: chevrolet camaro Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: south carolina Posts: 28	Thanks fellows. Looking forward to spending time on this forum.

03-19-2019, 12:22 PM	#11
penak Drives: BMW M5 Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: LA Posts: 6	subscribed, this seems like a very interesting thread