[FarmerFran]

GVWR = The maximum total weight of the vehicle including all fluids, occupants and cargo (cargo is anything you put in the vehicle – anything)

• The GVWR sticker on the car includes any options from the factory, so cars weights will vary.
• This is a custom sticker from your build sheet.
• Trucks tend to be worse due to all the accessories you can add. But this is a different subject

GAWR (front and rear) = the maximum weight each axle can have loaded on them. This is 2 separate numbers on the sticker. The combined axle weight ratings can sometimes be higher than the GVWR but not the other way around.

Payload = the weight of all occupants and cargo (cargo is anything you put in the vehicle – anything)

Curb Weight = the weight of the vehicle and all fluids from the factory, this includes a full tank of gas per regulation.


If you take the GVWR sticker (not a booklet – those are generic weights) and subtract the Payload sticker you have the vehicle weight that includes all fluids and options.

My car

4663 GVWR
minus
0688 Payload
equals
3945 Vehicle Curb weight

GVWR = Gross Vehicle weight rating
GAWR = Gross Axle weight Rating

[Callaway SC630]

Heavy.

[Paintslinger16]

That is correct, GVWR, tells you how much you can haul for a passenger car it’s basically occupants plus luggage or groceries inside.
Really comes into play more with say a pickup and dump trucks, which can be for a small truck 2 ton, i.e. 4000 lbs.
The AWR, can be exceeded if you are under weight of the GVWR but have to much over one axle. That’s just one of the things they check for, when you see the truck inspection station on the highways.
One of my many jobs is a NYS weightmaster, here’s my Camaro with me in it on my 200000 lbs Fairbanks scale.
I am also fill out all the titles for Government to private transfer of vehicles.

[lt4camaro]

Originally Posted by FarmerFran

GVWR = The maximum total weight of the vehicle including all fluids, occupants and cargo (cargo is anything you put in the vehicle – anything)

• The GVWR sticker on the car includes any options from the factory, so cars weights will vary.
• This is a custom sticker from your build sheet.
• Trucks tend to be worse due to all the accessories you can add. But this is a different subject

GAWR (front and rear) = the maximum weight each axle can have loaded on them. This is 2 separate numbers on the sticker. The combined axle weight ratings can sometimes be higher than the GVWR but not the other way around.

Payload = the weight of all occupants and cargo (cargo is anything you put in the vehicle – anything)

Curb Weight = the weight of the vehicle and all fluids from the factory, this includes a full tank of gas per regulation.


If you take the GVWR sticker (not a booklet – those are generic weights) and subtract the Payload sticker you have the vehicle weight that includes all fluids and options.

My car

4663 GVWR
minus
0688 Payload
equals
3945 Vehicle Curb weight

GVWR = Gross Vehicle weight rating
GAWR = Gross Axle weight Rating

That is a good way to ball park curb weight. Now go fill the tank and get on some scales without you in the car, the car will probably be lighter. 3945 is heavy for a manual SS imo. My payload on the 2021 LT1 is well over 700 lbs and my GVW is well over 200 lbs lighter with a 10 speed auto.

[Number 3]

I recall many years ago we bought back a Solstice because the customer and his wife exceeded the GVWR.

[JSH]

I agree. Farmerfran is making the calculation for purposes of tow fees. Again, the only way to know what your weighs, in my case, is to drive it onto a racetrack scale and climb out and get off the scale.

Originally Posted by lt4camaro

That is a good way to ball park curb weight. Now go fill the tank and get on some scales without you in the car, the car will probably be lighter. 3945 is heavy for a manual SS imo. My payload on the 2021 LT1 is well over 700 lbs and my GVW is well over 200 lbs lighter with a 10 speed auto.

[Scottyz]

So JSH, maybe I misunderstood, did you comment in the other thread that your ZLE is ~3600 pounds?

[c4racer]

Ya I doubt it’s 3980lbs.
That may have a 150 or 175lb allowance for a driver.
I would bet 3750 ish on the scales.

[vtirocz]

Originally Posted by c4racer

Ya I doubt it’s 3980lbs.
That may have a 150 or 175lb allowance for a driver.
I would bet 3750 ish on the scales.

The SS manual convertible is has a listed curb weight from GM literature of 3956 lb (assuming that’s a 1SS with no options, but the manual doesn’t say).

https://dealerinspire-brochure.s3.amazonaws.com/910.pdf

[FarmerFran]

Originally Posted by lt4camaro

That is a good way to ball park curb weight. Now go fill the tank and get on some scales without you in the car, the car will probably be lighter. 3945 is heavy for a manual SS imo. My payload on the 2021 LT1 is well over 700 lbs and my GVW is well over 200 lbs lighter with a 10 speed auto.

Take a picture of the stickers and post them... no guessing.

There are 2. Make sure you take a picture of both.

I anxiously await.

[95 imp]

This is what I've been saying since day one... I can't believe how fat these cars have become.

A fully loaded 95 Impala SS weighs 4300 ish. (some sites say 4000 ish).

[FarmerFran]

Originally Posted by c4racer

Ya I doubt it’s 3980lbs.
That may have a 150 or 175lb allowance for a driver.
I would bet 3750 ish on the scales.

There is no "allowance" that is an old wives tale. Take a look at your stickers, that is your car weight.

[m3bs]

M6 ZLE, with and without driver. Sticker says GVWR of 4607. Never mind the date.....

Payload ratings for trucks get tricky when you are towing. Tongue load and cargo doesn’t leave much payload capacity for passengers. Priorities!

[FarmerFran]

Originally Posted by vtirocz

The SS manual convertible is has a listed curb weight from GM literature of 3956 lb (assuming that’s a 1SS with no options, but the manual doesn’t say).

https://dealerinspire-brochure.s3.amazonaws.com/910.pdf

The 2020 info from GM says...

BASE CURB WEIGHT (base being the key word - that is the base car no options)

1ss Coupe = 3685
2ss Coupe = 3696
2SS Convertible = 3937