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Old 07-07-2014, 11:27 AM   #29
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lol, fob looks like they just cut the key off. that's horrible.
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Old 07-07-2014, 12:11 PM   #30
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Thanks for the video. At least in the video the key portion looked a little less cheesy/flimsy than some pics I've seen. Still not something I'm willingly going to get done.
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Old 07-07-2014, 12:31 PM   #31
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Old 07-07-2014, 12:41 PM   #32
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This is so stupid. Wouldn't the dangling fob be closer to your knee? That means your knee is now more likely to hit the fob. My knee is a good 5 inches away from the fob, it will never hit it. I'm keeping my switchblades.
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Old 07-07-2014, 12:46 PM   #33
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Old 07-07-2014, 12:48 PM   #34
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This is so stupid. Wouldn't the dangling fob be closer to your knee? That means your knee is now more likely to hit the fob. My knee is a good 5 inches away from the fob, it will never hit it. I'm keeping my switchblades.
the issue isn't/wasn't just hitting the fob, but hitting the fob and turning the car off while you were driving. so yes, you can now hit the fob easier with it dangling down, but you won't be able to turn the car off, unless you hit the fob, which then hits the key, and then turns the car off. if anyone does this, they should just turn their Camaro key in, and buy a different car. Which is something they should have done, if they hit the original key fob and turned their Camaro off.
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Old 07-07-2014, 12:50 PM   #35
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Why not the z/28? Most real race cars have a toggle start momentary switch on a board. Why not give a z the same condition but a fancier button. I doubt there is much more to weight saving. Just MHO.
Thats definitely a valid point. I'd imagine z/28 owners will have an opinion either way but I'd be all for a proper racing ignition switch.
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Old 07-07-2014, 12:57 PM   #36
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I am saluting GM on this one. (Don't know what I'll use my other 4 fingers for, though!)
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Old 07-07-2014, 01:03 PM   #37
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I am saluting GM on this one. (Don't know what I'll use my other 4 fingers for, though!)
So you're saying you don't like dangly parts?
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Old 07-07-2014, 01:12 PM   #38
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Thanks for taking your time to make the video in order to provide us with some insight.
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Old 07-07-2014, 01:20 PM   #39
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GM is asking for trouble with this recall. The issue isn't the fob, it's the low torque needed to rotate the key to the off position.

Here's a video of a GM with the non-fob key getting shut off the same way:



Decide for yourself if the "new" fobless-key is going to solve the problem.
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Old 07-07-2014, 01:30 PM   #40
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If you look, there is a press fit pin holding the key shaft to the switchblade
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Old 07-07-2014, 01:31 PM   #41
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GM is asking for trouble with this recall. The issue isn't the fob, it's the low torque needed to rotate the key to the off position.

Here's a video of a GM with the non-fob key getting shut off the same way:



Decide for yourself if the "new" fobless-key is going to solve the problem.
Do people drive with their knee that close?
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Old 07-07-2014, 01:35 PM   #42
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Do people drive with their knee that close?
I know a few people who drive with their knees on the dash. It's very unsafe and weird, but some people like their cucumbers pickled.

In my video where Laura and I demonstrate killing the ignition with a knee it's clear that both of us have to put significant effort into switching it. It's not something that'll likely happen as an accident.
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