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Old 07-07-2015, 10:35 PM   #85
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Exactly, the blower lid and fuel rail is 700-800 alone
I got the lid for 380 without rails

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Old 07-07-2015, 11:15 PM   #86
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I'm going to throw out another question. If a person decides to go with the factory supercharger and installs it on a regular V8 Camaro (manual or automatic), will the factory cam suffice or will it NEED to be replaced with an aftermarket cam?
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Old 07-07-2015, 11:47 PM   #87
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Depends on power goals. Factory cam is fine if you have very modest power goals.
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Old 07-07-2015, 11:59 PM   #88
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I got the lid for 380 without rails

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Right the rails are 400 new, unless you buy used
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Old 07-08-2015, 12:14 AM   #89
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first off all magnuson uses eaton rotor sets.... second i call bs on 1000hp with a tvs 1.9 with the blower only... maybe with a big shot of nitrous on top, but not on with blower alone...
I agree. There aren't any 1000hp cars using the LSA blower.

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Old 07-08-2015, 12:16 AM   #90
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??? Isn't it running 12 lbs boost? Over 630 here on the EForce with 8.5 avg boost on a miserable hot day. 10k+ miles on blower and no issues.
Where's the dyno?
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Prime example of what can be done.

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Old 07-08-2015, 04:07 AM   #91
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Give andy at ADM performance a call compare any SC out there nothing comes even closer to what this Lsa conversion kit does especially ADM they have put together some incredible numbers i am as happy now as i was in first day i picked the car from ADM car performs fantastic
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Old 07-16-2015, 09:57 AM   #92
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Forget about the warranty!

Buy smart and buy only 1 time!

Buy a blower or turbo that you can run around 550 to 600 rwhp and your never have a problem unless its installed or tuned wrong or you run some type of drag tires. That being said when you have the money to do forged internals that FI system you bought can then got to 800 rwhp plus.

Things you need to watch is wasting money on fuel system like the ZL1 pump. It quickly runs out of fuel when upgrading. By the time you pay for a boosta pump or module you can have dual pump for 800 rwhp. If e85 is in your area you will want to skip all this and go directly to the Fore or squash setup.. They burn ya 400 bucks to R and R the pump each time so do it once!

Injectors: those 52lbs zl1 lSA or eforce are to small unless stock psi is ok forever! So try to get a kit with out injectors and buy your own.. ID 850s on pump and ID 1000s or 1300 on e85.


Its unfortunate that no one ever tells you these things when you buy a SC kit!

If you have any ability at all you can put a eforce kit on! the hardest ting is drilling the crank, they supply you with a bit and template you supply a good drill!

Downside on these smaller blowers you gotta turn them really hard to make some good numbers and during the summer they generate so much heat you lose about 100 hp so you will need to think about lowering IATs or live with it.
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Old 07-16-2015, 10:05 AM   #93
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Buy turbo, superchargers are ancient and a thing of the past, many more posabilites with a big turbo setup
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Old 07-16-2015, 10:56 AM   #94
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Buy turbo, superchargers are ancient and a thing of the past, many more posabilites with a big turbo setup
What a stupid comment. I guess the 1000's of us with superchargers are just total idiots. I guess GM and Ford and others who install PD superchargers are idiots too.

What is it with you turbo boys that make you so immature? You constantly feel the need to bash other systems.

A turbo is a fine set up. As are all the other boost options. All have their place.
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Old 07-16-2015, 03:01 PM   #95
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What's even funnier is that the original patents for all three (centri, turbo and PD) were all from around the same time (1880-1900). LOL
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Old 07-16-2015, 03:01 PM   #96
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If we all wanted turbos we would all buy them. But we dont. I would not trade my setup as a dd for nothing. Check out the reason why. Where do you spend most of your time zipping around town. At lower rpms correct. Check out these 2 graphs both at around 10 psi. Notice the torque difference at 3000rpm. The pd blower car has 300 more rwtq and almost double the horsepower. While the turbos trying to get spooled im already gone. The only thing i would own with turbos is a race car with a turbo 400 and a gear vendors a stall and a 2 step that works. Im just using the top graph as a reference nothing against them at all. This is the supercharger killer graph compared to my 417 lsa.
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If we all wanted turbos we would all buy them. But we dont. I would not trade my setup as a dd for nothing. Check out the reason why. Where do you spend most of your time zipping around town. At lower rpms correct. Check out these 2 graphs both at around 10 psi. Notice the torque difference at 3000rpm. The pd blower car has 300 more rwtq and almost double the horsepower. While the turbos trying to get spooled im already gone. The only thing i would own with turbos is a race car with a turbo 400 and a gear vendors a stall and a 2 step that works. Im just using the top graph as a reference nothing against them at all. This is the supercharger killer graph compared to my 417 lsa.
A lot of logic missing from this assessment.
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Old 07-16-2015, 04:33 PM   #98
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A lot of logic missing from this assessment.
A matched converter, gearing, and trans go a long way in a turbo car... but that can be said about any setup.

Mine is not a dd, but I drive it very often and Id rather dig race, but a roll race is inevitable. A couple buddies jump on the highway together.... Hell I almost got run down by a 4xxwhp srt4 neon on the highway, and his was a dd.

Don't over think the low end grunt of our blowers, pull after pull we heatsoak and most turbo cars dont
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