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Old 09-14-2016, 11:22 AM   #29
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I've heard that the rationale behind parking in 2nd is that if the parking brake fails, it's now the gear holding the car in place and they will be under stress. It will be a lot easier to temporarily lose 2nd than it will be to lose 1st. Shrug
your'e not going to "loose" any gear if the parking brake was not sufficient to hold the vehicle. the force of the wheels turning the transmission/engine are completely normal and not different then when you are driving the vehicle.
Leaving a manual transmission in 1st (or reverse) is as normal as leaving your automatic transmission in Park.... you wouldn't leave that in neutral would you? it is a backup to the parking brake.
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Old 09-14-2016, 11:27 AM   #30
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I've heard that the rationale behind parking in 2nd is that if the parking brake fails, it's now the gear holding the car in place and they will be under stress. It will be a lot easier to temporarily lose 2nd than it will be to lose 1st.

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How is having your car up against a gear when it is parked any more stressful than downshifting and engine braking when you are driving? 1st gear or reverse will hold your vehicle firmer than any of the higher gears will.
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Old 09-14-2016, 11:49 AM   #31
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Seems like a silly idea considering if the car has better holding ability in first gear. Say you put it in 2nd to save 1st gear but because the car isn't held as well it rolls away and is crashed. Some good that pristine 1st gear does you now.
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your'e not going to "loose" any gear if the parking brake was not sufficient to hold the vehicle. the force of the wheels turning the transmission/engine are completely normal and not different then when you are driving the vehicle.
Leaving a manual transmission in 1st (or reverse) is as normal as leaving your automatic transmission in Park.... you wouldn't leave that in neutral would you? it is a backup to the parking brake.
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How is having your car up against a gear when it is parked any more stressful than downshifting and engine braking when you are driving? 1st gear or reverse will hold your vehicle firmer than any of the higher gears will.
Again, shrug.

I don't live in San Francisco or anywhere that would normally cause me to park on drastic inclines/declines. But I agree with parking in gear, as a secondary measure to prevent the vehicle from rolling away, should the parking brake fail.
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Old 09-14-2016, 06:32 PM   #32
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agree with most, reverse if downhill, 1st if uphill, parked in the garage in reverse so when you start it if your foot would ever happen to slip your go backwards not into your workbench. same with parking spots.
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Old 09-15-2016, 03:30 PM   #33
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It's actually funny that this need to be discussed. Everyone should know that you park the car in either 1st or reverse and apply your park brake for redundancy.

If parking in slope you also turn the front wheels towards the curb.

It's not rocket science really 😂

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Old 09-15-2016, 04:20 PM   #34
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This "parking brake for redundancy" is the idea I don't agree with. The parking brake is your primary method for parking the vehicle. Having it in gear is the redundant measure.
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Old 09-15-2016, 04:36 PM   #35
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This "parking brake for redundancy" is the idea I don't agree with. The parking brake is your primary method for parking the vehicle. Having it in gear is the redundant measure.
Having your car in gear is far more reliable than the parking brake. As I posted earlier, in my time I have seen so many problems with parking brakes that I don't trust them at all. The cables can and do get stretched out, the channels they follow can and do get full of dirt which freezes the cables up, cables can and do break. And now they are electronic, that is one more thing on them that can malfunction.

The name "parking brake" is relatively new, they used to be called "emergency brakes". Beings they are mechanically operated rather than hydraulically operated, if your regular brakes went out due to a broken line, or other leak, you could use the "emergency" brake to stop you.
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Old 09-16-2016, 04:02 AM   #36
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I've always left it in 1st on level ground or when facing uphill. If I face downhill then I would put it in reverse. Don't really know if either way makes a difference.

Just never heard of putting it in reverse to shut down more of the electronics when the car is parked.
I put it in whatever gear will stop the car from rolling if the parking brake fails, like you said, if I don't want it rolling forward, I put it in reverse, and vise versa.
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Old 09-16-2016, 06:11 AM   #37
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This "parking brake for redundancy" is the idea I don't agree with. The parking brake is your primary method for parking the vehicle. Having it in gear is the redundant measure.
I've been driving nothing but manual transmissions for 20 years. You park it in gear whether or not you use the parking brake.
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Old 09-16-2016, 08:15 AM   #38
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I've been driving nothing but manual transmissions for 20 years. You park it in gear whether or not you use the parking brake.
Again, I don't disagree with the being in gear part; I'm not the one parking in neutral. Guess what? I've only ever driven manual transmissions too, cool story bro.
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Old 09-23-2016, 08:15 AM   #39
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I always leave it in 1st unless I'm in my driveway and then sometimes I put it in reverse. Doesn't really matter one way or the other. My hand is always resting on the shifter too. You just never know when one of those pesky mustangs is going to pull along side.

HAA exactly!! never knew when rev match and down shift need to occur!
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Old 09-23-2016, 08:16 AM   #40
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My electronic park break makes a click noise each time I use it. (housing) its located behind my driver back wheel. It drives me crazy. Sounds like I am manually pushing the emergency break down. Anyone else?? 2016 SS
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Old 09-23-2016, 08:54 AM   #41
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My electronic park break makes a click noise each time I use it. (housing) its located behind my driver back wheel. It drives me crazy. Sounds like I am manually pushing the emergency break down. Anyone else?? 2016 SS
Get it checked out. Your e brake is operated by a cable separately from your regular brakes. That cable could be binding on something.
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Old 09-23-2016, 11:34 AM   #42
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I read they other day riding with you hand on the shifter isn't a good thing? I seems to always have my hand resting on the shifter ?? What's your Take on this ????
I always ride with my hand on the shifter. Of course, I only got 274,369 miles out of the M5 in the 2001 BMW X5 I just traded in on my Summit White 1LT 6M 'vert. YMMV

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