VARARAM & Chuck CoW tune dyno results!!!!!!! - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

POWERFREAK · 10-27-2009, 08:35 PM

Sorry it took so long...I know it's been a topic of much debate here lately.

Here's my dyno results. I have the beta-test unit...Vararam "race" intake (requires a tune). Tuning was done by Chuck CoW. (Corvette's of Westchester in Ossining NY).

Both dyno runs were done last night on a Dynojet.

Baseline was done first...totally stock. Made 360hp/352tq.

We than swapped in the tune and the Vararam intake, and ran it again...some nice gains...peak 392hp/398tq. The highest gains (most impressively) were at 4200rpm....+46hp/+57tq

Here's 2 graphs...the second one has the #'s at 4200rpm's highlighted. Keep in mind this is still a test unit!

I can't say enough about how much better the car runs now...much more responsive and pulls much harder.

Thanks to Chuck and Vararam! We've also got AR headers waiting to go on...and will get more dyno results posted.

Cooper2010 · 10-27-2009, 08:42 PM

Holy cow! Wish we could see the same graphs with a "non-tune" version.

How is driveability? Would you recommend the "Race/Tune-only" version to someone that uses the car for a daily driver?

Jeanius · 10-27-2009, 08:46 PM

Icntdrv55 · 10-27-2009, 08:54 PM

Now THAT is how a beta tester should post!! Great results Freak! Would love to see the Non Tune version graphs as well.......... from someone other then 2SSRS!

Wacker · 10-27-2009, 08:54 PM

I have to say WOW because the stock tune is Very Aggressive with the M6. Did you guys run a big fan? I'd really like to know what he was allowed to tweak so much.

55Designs · 10-27-2009, 08:55 PM

WOW

2SSRS@Gen5diy · 10-27-2009, 08:56 PM

All i can say is nice, I know there is more to be had with more motor and tell Chuck nice job.

POWERFREAK · 10-27-2009, 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Icntdrv55

Now THAT is how a beta tester should post!! Great results Freak! Would love to see the Non Tune version graphs as well.......... from someone other then 2SSRS!

I tried to stay quiet until I had dyno sheets in hand. It was hard, because I've been driving the car w/ the intake for a while, so I know how well it runs.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wacker

I have to say WOW because the stock tune is Very Aggressive with the M6. Did you guys run a big fan? I'd really like to know what he was allowed to tweak so much.

They had one of those "snail" looking fans...we got it as close to the grill as possible, knowing that we needed to get as much air as possible in there.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cooper2010

How is driveability? Would you recommend the "Race/Tune-only" version to someone that uses the car for a daily driver?

Driveability seems fine. I've had it installed for several weeks with no issues.

klatterblast · 10-27-2009, 09:01 PM

awesome

Icntdrv55 · 10-27-2009, 09:05 PM

And I think I am speaking for many of us on this forum when I say.....Thank you for staying quiet until you had the proof!

Bell040 · 10-27-2009, 09:08 PM

a baseline of 360 is quite low........ hot? humid?

Chuck CoW · 10-27-2009, 09:09 PM

Congratulations MIKE and VARARAM!

Great results! Like Mike said, all runs were last night within the same hour, No road test between intake and tune swaps. Right there on the rollers.

The bigger results are from our extensive street tune of the NEW VR RACE UNIT...To my surprise, the mid and top end of the RPM scale required almost no adjustment from the street tune, while (as we suspected...) the 3,500 and down area was a bit rich because the car was not actually moving and we didn't allow any time for the fuel trims to correct the calibration after the intake swap.

Had we taken the car off the dyno, and driven it for 20 mins, the trims would have kicked in with some correction and the low end HP and Torque would have improved nicely.

Regardless, the results were exactly what we were hoping for and I think that this unit is gonna find itself at the top of the COLD AIR INTAKE FOOD CHAIN just as the way VARARAM products dominate the Corvette world.

So far as I'm aware, the production unit is just around the corner and will absolutely be worth the wait!

What's gonna be different between last night's VARARAM results and the results you would see between the My street tune and the dyno????

Well, as I said earlier, the low speed TORQUE and HP should come up sharply after the car is street driven and the fuel trims get caught up cause the AFR on the low end was far richer than my logs of the street tune were. Another point to realize: While we're totally pleased with the WOT results from the dyno, you need to realize that this intake system is AN AIRFLOW MONSTER which gobbles up air the faster you go!

What that means is that your "REAL WORLD" results with MY tune and this intake system should improve on the top end when the vehicle is tuned at SPEED on the street.

STAY TUNED! for next weeks dyno results of Mike's ongoing progress with the addition of a set of AMERICAN RACING 1 7/8 LONG TUBE HEADERS and a CAT BACK system!

...AND BACK TO THE DYNO!!!

Stay TUNED!
Chuck CoW

Jeanius · 10-27-2009, 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bell040

a baseline of 360 is quite low........ hot? humid?

And how many miles are on the car?

axis · 10-27-2009, 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Icntdrv55

And I think I am speaking for many of us on this forum when I say.....Thank you for staying quiet until you had the proof!

Lets keep in mind that this is the CAI PLUS a tune. Unlike the previous CAI only numbers that were essentially the same.

Very nice numbers. Finally something that is believeable.

10-27-2009, 08:35 PM	#1
POWERFREAK I.AM. Drives: 2011 2SS/RS/A6 cammed-n-whippled Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: NY Posts: 2,638	VARARAM & Chuck CoW tune dyno results!!!!!!! Sorry it took so long...I know it's been a topic of much debate here lately. Here's my dyno results. I have the beta-test unit...Vararam "race" intake (requires a tune). Tuning was done by Chuck CoW. (Corvette's of Westchester in Ossining NY). Both dyno runs were done last night on a Dynojet. Baseline was done first...totally stock. Made 360hp/352tq. We than swapped in the tune and the Vararam intake, and ran it again...some nice gains...peak 392hp/398tq. The highest gains (most impressively) were at 4200rpm....+46hp/+57tq Here's 2 graphs...the second one has the #'s at 4200rpm's highlighted. Keep in mind this is still a test unit! I can't say enough about how much better the car runs now...much more responsive and pulls much harder. Thanks to Chuck and Vararam! We've also got AR headers waiting to go on...and will get more dyno results posted. __________________ NY5thgen.com Last edited by POWERFREAK; 10-27-2009 at 09:39 PM.

10-27-2009, 08:42 PM	#2
Cooper2010 Drives: 2010 LS3 2SS CGM Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Del Rio, TX Posts: 74	Holy cow! Wish we could see the same graphs with a "non-tune" version. How is driveability? Would you recommend the "Race/Tune-only" version to someone that uses the car for a daily driver? __________________ CGM 2SS LS3

10-27-2009, 08:54 PM	#4
Icntdrv55 CCOTR Member Drives: Victory Red 2010 2SS/RS A6 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Parker CO Posts: 1,096	Now THAT is how a beta tester should post!! Great results Freak! Would love to see the Non Tune version graphs as well.......... from someone other then 2SSRS! __________________ Camaro Club Of The Rockies (CCOTR) Check us out on Facebook! --------------------------- 2010 Camaro SS/RS Victory Red A6- Vararam Intake, Doug Thorley Tri Y LTs, Magnaflow X-pipe, Flowmaster Super 40's, VMS Tune, Razzi Ground Effects, Herritage Grill, RED headlight and fog light Halos, LED DRLs, Dash and extended Door ABL, engine, grill and rear defusser LED lighting ........ 12.59@112.21 (DA Corrected)

10-27-2009, 08:54 PM	#5
Wacker INTHECLOUDS Drives: 2010 2SS/RS Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: NM Posts: 912	I have to say WOW because the stock tune is Very Aggressive with the M6. Did you guys run a big fan? I'd really like to know what he was allowed to tweak so much. __________________ 2010 IOM 2SS/RS A6, Tuned by Me, ARH/NoCats, Borla Touring, Vararam CAI, G-Force 9" with 4.10's, Circle D 4500K, (Skinnies/Slicks, and Bogarts all around 24MPG 11.39 @ 118 510 DA www.6l80tuning.com www.6l90tuning.com

10-27-2009, 09:05 PM	#10
Icntdrv55 CCOTR Member Drives: Victory Red 2010 2SS/RS A6 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Parker CO Posts: 1,096	And I think I am speaking for many of us on this forum when I say.....Thank you for staying quiet until you had the proof! __________________ Camaro Club Of The Rockies (CCOTR) Check us out on Facebook! --------------------------- 2010 Camaro SS/RS Victory Red A6- Vararam Intake, Doug Thorley Tri Y LTs, Magnaflow X-pipe, Flowmaster Super 40's, VMS Tune, Razzi Ground Effects, Herritage Grill, RED headlight and fog light Halos, LED DRLs, Dash and extended Door ABL, engine, grill and rear defusser LED lighting ........ 12.59@112.21 (DA Corrected)

10-27-2009, 08:46 PM	#3
Jeanius Drives: Blk/Blk 2018 Sierra SLT Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Golden State Posts: 2,925

10-27-2009, 08:55 PM	#6
55Designs Drives: 2010 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Westchester NY Posts: 990	WOW

10-27-2009, 08:56 PM	#7
2SSRS@Gen5diy Drives: 2014 Z/28 #82+#192, 18ZLE 66Nova Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: By the lake in AZ Posts: 15,719 View My Garage	All i can say is nice, I know there is more to be had with more motor and tell Chuck nice job.

10-27-2009, 09:01 PM	#9
klatterblast Drives: 2010 camaro 2ssrs blk. Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: walker la. Posts: 1,732 View My Garage	awesome

10-27-2009, 09:08 PM	#11
Bell040 Drives: 2SS/RS - Black - GFX Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: B'ham, Alabama Posts: 2,458 View My Garage	a baseline of 360 is quite low........ hot? humid? __________________ Ordered: 10-13-08 Built: 3-30-09 (#1691) Recieved: 6-12-09 Blacked out, Cammed (Lunati Voodoo 233/245, .578/.598 @114°, +4°), ARH LTs, VR OTR CAI, Cutouts, and lots of other fun mods.

10-27-2009, 09:09 PM	#12
Chuck CoW Drives: Corvette/Camaro Shop Owner Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Ossining, New York Posts: 35	Congratulations MIKE and VARARAM! Congratulations MIKE and VARARAM! Great results! Like Mike said, all runs were last night within the same hour, No road test between intake and tune swaps. Right there on the rollers. The bigger results are from our extensive street tune of the NEW VR RACE UNIT...To my surprise, the mid and top end of the RPM scale required almost no adjustment from the street tune, while (as we suspected...) the 3,500 and down area was a bit rich because the car was not actually moving and we didn't allow any time for the fuel trims to correct the calibration after the intake swap. Had we taken the car off the dyno, and driven it for 20 mins, the trims would have kicked in with some correction and the low end HP and Torque would have improved nicely. Regardless, the results were exactly what we were hoping for and I think that this unit is gonna find itself at the top of the COLD AIR INTAKE FOOD CHAIN just as the way VARARAM products dominate the Corvette world. So far as I'm aware, the production unit is just around the corner and will absolutely be worth the wait! What's gonna be different between last night's VARARAM results and the results you would see between the My street tune and the dyno???? Well, as I said earlier, the low speed TORQUE and HP should come up sharply after the car is street driven and the fuel trims get caught up cause the AFR on the low end was far richer than my logs of the street tune were. Another point to realize: While we're totally pleased with the WOT results from the dyno, you need to realize that this intake system is AN AIRFLOW MONSTER which gobbles up air the faster you go! What that means is that your "REAL WORLD" results with MY tune and this intake system should improve on the top end when the vehicle is tuned at SPEED on the street. STAY TUNED! for next weeks dyno results of Mike's ongoing progress with the addition of a set of AMERICAN RACING 1 7/8 LONG TUBE HEADERS and a CAT BACK system! ...AND BACK TO THE DYNO!!! Stay TUNED! Chuck CoW

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