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Old 05-20-2020, 01:11 PM   #15
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Yep, that ties up.. rounds it to 15mm. Close enough.

For ref the first one I used was www.willtheyfit.com
The rim lip you're referencing is irrelevant

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Old 05-20-2020, 01:17 PM   #16
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Unaware of what you're doing
Your link agrees with what I've been saying. That the outer lip will be 15mm further out. I don't know how much more obvious for you I can make it without going and putting the wheels on the car and taking a photo in front of a tape measure!
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Old 05-20-2020, 01:18 PM   #17
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The rim lip you're referencing is irrelevant

No it isn't. That's what you will see on in the extremity of the wheel arch. That's what will touch under suspension compression with the flare if anything was going to (which it isnt)

It will be 14.7mm further out. Period.
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Old 05-20-2020, 01:36 PM   #18
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Your link agrees with what I've been saying. That the outer lip will be 15mm further out. I don't know how much more obvious for you I can make it without going and putting the wheels on the car and taking a photo in front of a tape measure!
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No it isn't. That's what you will see on in the extremity of the wheel arch. That's what will touch under suspension compression with the flare if anything was going to (which it isnt)

It will be 14.7mm further out. Period.
I think you're too wrapped up in the numbers and how the math works...

Look at the picture

305/30/19 is constant

Another way to explain it is... take the 32.25mm rear wheel and add a 21.25 spacer to it... you'd end up with 11mm

21.25mm further out toward the fender with a 305/30/19 tire

The "rim lip" you're referencing is something i've never encountered or impacted the dozens of wheels and tires I've spec'd. Nor should or would be to anyone else. Which is why I'm talking with you about it. Confusing to others
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Old 05-20-2020, 01:44 PM   #19
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I think you're too wrapped up in the numbers and how the math works...

Look at the picture

305/30/19 is constant

Another way to explain it is... take the 32.25mm rear wheel and add a 21.25 spacer to it... you'd end up with 11mm

21.25mm further out toward the fender with a 305/30/19 tire

The "rim lip" you're referencing is something i've never encountered or impacted the dozens of wheels and tires I've spec'd. Nor should or would be to anyone else. Which is why I'm talking with you about it. Confusing to others
It's you who isn't getting it Jon.

Yes, add a 21.25mm spacer to an 11.5J rear and it would be 21.25mm further out. No surprise there.

But add a 21.25mm spacer to a wheel that is a totally different width and whether the wheel will stick or poke out is totally relevant.

If I fit a 8J wide 11ET rim on the back it will be clear everything but look skinny.

If I fit a 13.5J wide 11ET rim on the back it will stick out past the flare and look ridiculous.

Now if I fit an 11.0J 11ET rim on there. It will stick out 14.7mm more than stock. And everyone reading this should understand that it will look a little different (better) and won't do any harm or touch anything. On other vehicles that maybe not the case. So yes, it's totally relevant.
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Old 05-20-2020, 02:08 PM   #20
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It's you who isn't getting it Jon.

Yes, add a 21.25mm spacer to an 11.5J rear and it would be 21.25mm further out. No surprise there.

But add a 21.25mm spacer to a wheel that is a totally different width and whether the wheel will stick or poke out is totally relevant.

If I fit a 8J wide 11ET rim on the back it will be clear everything but look skinny.

If I fit a 13.5J wide 11ET rim on the back it will stick out past the flare and look ridiculous.

Now if I fit an 11.0J 11ET rim on there. It will stick out 14.7mm more than stock. And everyone reading this should understand that it will look a little different (better) and won't do any harm or touch anything. On other vehicles that maybe not the case. So yes, it's totally relevant.
Tire spec and rim offset (wheel center line is constant on wheel widths) is all that matters... look past rim width
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Old 05-20-2020, 03:19 PM   #21
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...look past rim width
I give up.
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Old 05-20-2020, 04:08 PM   #22
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Time for a jack, lug wrench and put front on back and a camera. Don’t forget the beers after. I’m sure some have been running this setup for years or tried and failed years ago. You had me ordering front rims then cancelling them. Ha!!
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Old 05-20-2020, 04:50 PM   #23
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What you want is:

19x11 ET 27 to 22 (27 would be factory, 22 would be 5mm more poke) square, running a 15mm spacer in the front
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