1LE outruns ZL-1's

[RGRCamaro]

OP - Good win. I have never understood the whole "you beat the driver, not the car" excuse/crutch. In the words of Vin Diesel "Winning is winning"

[SWAG1LE]

I too have won against a 2013 M6 ZL1 in the 1/4 mile. I cut a decent light and he was never able to recover. With NO TUNE I got 407 at the wheels

[Dmayhew26]

Originally Posted by RGRCamaro

OP - Good win. I have never understood the whole "you beat the driver, not the car" excuse/crutch. In the words of Vin Diesel "Winning is winning"

That is so true!! Doesn't matter how it goes down. A win is a win.

[1LE Timmy]

My best friend owns a bone stock zl1 and has told me how he's been beaten on the highway twice by 5.0 mustangs. The second one is another friend and co-worker of mine. It's a track pack 5.0 with exhaust and a tune. Basic bolt ons. I don't know at all how it's possible that it beat him. I also ran against the same mustang in my bone stock 1LE and he pulled on me as well. The only thing I've noticed is a huge hindrance to our cars is the torque management and throttle response. Compared to my cam/bolt-on/tune 2006 GTO, the Camaro feels like a slouch. Granted I had more power in the GTO, the snappiness of the car is what caught everyone off guard. My honest opinion is the torque management and stock throttle response kills these cars.

[camarosspower]

I also would beat zl1's when I was just bolt ons. 3out of 3. I have just a reg ss. My Buddy with his 1le bolt ons has also beaten 2 different zl1's when he was just on bolt ons. I was even asked by one of them if my car was the new z28. Lol

[Jpnyhc1le]

just stumbled on this thread and want to add my opinion. with the bolt ons you currently have its possible you can make 430plus at the wheels some zl1's dyno 475 at the wheels you weigh 38somethin he weighs 41somethin common sense will tell you its a drivers race, with the z maybe having a slight advantage. i still havent raced a z but when i had cai,ported tb,lth,catless mids it was a drivers race between me and a friends cts v with a tune making 512 rwhp vs my 435 on the exact same dyno.sometimes i would edge him out other times he would edge me out.now he makes 542 rwhp and i have made 532 on the same dyno and its not even close i walk away with ease but thats not a surprise.i would love to run a z with bolt ons but i see more hellcats than z's around me for some reason

[KaBoom1701]

I've taken out 911's and much faster cars......it's the driver.....

[CrystalRedTintcoat]

Originally Posted by backeddy

in a straightaway, no way, in the corners, all day.

Agree. I've been on the track with ZL1s and they are definitely much faster.


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[guerrillakilla13]

Originally Posted by thompstl1

I outran my 2nd ZL1 today in my 2014 1LE.

The first was at the Texas Mile. I turned in a slightly higher MPH than the new paper tagged ZL1. At the time, I just assumed he was taking it easy on his new car.

Today, I made 4 runs with a ZL1 from around 60 mph, all the way to 165. In each event, I pulled the ZL1; albeit very slightly.

My 2014 1LE has almost 40K miles, and is a daily driver. It’s got a few bolt-ones, but nothing more than long tubes, high flow cats, CAI, and a computer tune.

I’ve been really surprised both times. Mustang Dyno computes my HP at 517. So I’m not sure why I’ve outrun these two Zl1’s, but it certainly happened!

Any similar experiences?

no flippin way you're putting down 517 with just a CAI, High flows and a tune. DANGGGG!! I know where I need to put my money into

[thompstl1]

Originally Posted by guerrillakilla13

no flippin way you're putting down 517 with just a CAI, High flows and a tune. DANGGGG!! I know where I need to put my money into

The 517 was the calculated number at the flywheel; not rwhp.

[URBAN LEGEND]

That 1LE is the truth!

[motorhead]

Originally Posted by 1LE Timmy

My best friend owns a bone stock zl1 and has told me how he's been beaten on the highway twice by 5.0 mustangs. The second one is another friend and co-worker of mine. It's a track pack 5.0 with exhaust and a tune. Basic bolt ons. I don't know at all how it's possible that it beat him. I also ran against the same mustang in my bone stock 1LE and he pulled on me as well. The only thing I've noticed is a huge hindrance to our cars is the torque management and throttle response. Compared to my cam/bolt-on/tune 2006 GTO, the Camaro feels like a slouch. Granted I had more power in the GTO, the snappiness of the car is what caught everyone off guard. My honest opinion is the torque management and stock throttle response kills these cars.

Just watched driven on TV. The new Mustang beat a z/28 and a Hellcat charger in a drag race. They had a pro driver in the mustang against noobs in the other two. It just goes to show you that the driver mod should be done before anything to your car.

[URBAN LEGEND]

Originally Posted by motorhead

Just watched driven on TV. The new Mustang beat a z/28 and a Hellcat charger in a drag race. They had a pro driver in the mustang against noobs in the other two. It just goes to show you that the driver mod should be done before anything to your car.

Chris Harris in the Mustang is not a Pro.
The race was with TC/LC off. The Z/28 and Hellcat smoked their tires.
Z/28 3 seconds faster on the road course.

Just saying...

[motorhead]

Originally Posted by URBAN LEGEND

Chris Harris in the Mustang is not a Pro.
The race was with TC/LC off. The Z/28 and Hellcat smoked their tires.
Z/28 3 seconds faster on the road course.

Just saying...

I don't know him, but they called him a pro. The point was that a slower car can beat a faster one depending on driver. On the second run the mustang still beat the Z/28 but the charger won. Who cares what happen on the road course. That isn't the type of racing this thread is about. I would hope that a 70k road course purpose built car could beat a 40k general purpose street performance car. That would have been a huge fail otherwise.