02-02-2011, 01:00 PM | #1 |
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Does the Z really stand a chance of success?
All indications are that the GT500 is the Z/28's target, and given the fact that the GT500 is much improved over last year, what chance has the Z got at being a success?
To overcome the Shelby in a straight line, it would need to be lighter than an SS and/or have a more powerful engine than the CTS-V! To overcome the Shelby in cornering, it would need to be smaller and lighter, which is not possible with Zeta, or have very advanced Porsche-level suspension and braking to hide the weight disadvantage. Any of these changes would put the Z over $60K just to compete with the $50K GT500. I just think targeting the GT500 was a mistake, and a set up for failure. Maybe they tried too hard to make the Zeta full-size platform something it could never be. We'll see how it plays out.
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02-02-2011, 01:07 PM | #2 |
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I find your lack of faith disturbing.
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I will be the most amazed if GM can pull it off. It's an engineering and accounting challenge.
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02-02-2011, 01:13 PM | #5 |
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The will suceed!!!!!
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02-02-2011, 01:37 PM | #11 | |
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The CTS-V is about as good a proxy for the Z28 as we can expect. As far as we know, the Z28 will get the same engine, same suspension, and same brakes as the CTS-V. However, the Z28 should weigh less than the CTS-V, have meatier tires, and possibly a bit more power. In otherwords, better performance all around than the CTS-V, which is already a good match for the GT500. In a straight line, the CTS-V is neck and neck with the GT500, despite an extra 400+ lbs and about the same power. It is as fast or faster in the slalom but seems to have a bit less overall cornering grip. Braking, GT500 the GT500 would have an advantage on paper, but in the real world, the CTS-V's brakes are considered superior.
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02-02-2011, 01:38 PM | #12 |
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02-02-2011, 01:52 PM | #13 |
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Z/28 > GT500 > SRT8.
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02-02-2011, 01:56 PM | #14 |
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if that's the case then why is the henessey cars so much faster and basically the same weight as the ss. from the factory i'm sure the price will be made compeditive.
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