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gunchamp · 09-08-2021, 06:48 AM

Ess system and dont look back. Turbos are not quite as fun on the street which is where we do most of our driving. Belt slippage isnt a thing with the ESS kit and massive power is available by simply changing the head unit and pully down. Turbos have a crap ton more plumbing and are much more complicated to install and work on. Turbos also quiet the exhaust not quite a bit. Just my opinion, take it for what its worth

RealQuick · 09-08-2021, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by gunchamp

Ess system and dont look back. Turbos are not quite as fun on the street which is where we do most of our driving.

Not sure about the not quite as fun on the street comment... what specifically do you mean? Example

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Belt slippage isnt a thing with the ESS kit and massive power is available by simply changing the head unit and pully down.

800rwhp is a modest goal... and definitely can be supported by a SC. Some kits have better tension setups.

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Turbos have a crap ton more plumbing and are much more complicated to install and work on.

Agree 100%

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Turbos also quiet the exhaust not quite a bit.

At idle, yes... the exhaust is slightly less than if I had straight piped headers (without the turbos inline). The sounds a turbo camaro makes during part throttle and full throttle driving makes any other type of FI on these cars sound inferior IMO. The whistle the turbos make at part throttle is insane. When the gates open at WOT the exhaust exiting the the tail pipes is inaudible... sounds like a jet plane.

gunchamp · 09-08-2021, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by RealQuick

Not sure about the not quite as fun on the street comment... what specifically do you mean? Example

800rwhp is a modest goal... and definitely can be supported by a SC. Some kits have better tension setups.

Agree 100%

At idle, yes... the exhaust is slightly less than if I had straight piped headers (without the turbos inline). The sounds a turbo camaro makes during part throttle and full throttle driving makes any other type of FI on these cars sound inferior IMO. The whistle the turbos make at part throttle is insane. When the gates open at WOT the exhaust exiting the the tail pipes is inaudible... sounds like a jet plane.

Almost every turbo car ive driven or been around was way too quiet. Turbos are mufflers. They quiet the note down as well as cam lope. And what i mean as not as fun is the initial turbo lag. Stop light to stop light, a blower blows the turbo away. Sure once turbos get going they pull like a freight train, but they normally come in so hard you go from dead ass lag to uncontrollable traction issues. Like i said to each their own. Some like turbos, some blowers. I wouldnt fault anyone for either choice. I just know what i prefer and thats what i can recommend

CamaroCracka · 09-09-2021, 09:32 AM

My neighbors think mine is pretty loud, but I don't want a car that sounds like uncapped headers for street driving. I'm not sure how the PD guys get any traction from a dig on the street. Mine blows the tires off pretty quick unless I roll into the throttle. PD guys seem to get better times at strip, have less issues and look better.

Keeping the hot side from burning things up is a pain and there definitely seems to be more of a learning curve in getting turbo HP to convert to low ETs. However, I can run HPDEs all day and never break 205 on the coolant temp with the stock radiator.

eLeSthree · 09-09-2021, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by RealQuick

Not sure about the not quite as fun on the street comment... what specifically do you mean? Example

800rwhp is a modest goal... and definitely can be supported by a SC. Some kits have better tension setups.

Agree 100%

At idle, yes... the exhaust is slightly less than if I had straight piped headers (without the turbos inline). The sounds a turbo camaro makes during part throttle and full throttle driving makes any other type of FI on these cars sound inferior IMO. The whistle the turbos make at part throttle is insane. When the gates open at WOT the exhaust exiting the the tail pipes is inaudible... sounds like a jet plane.

I won't argue with that...

I do love the feel of extra displacement and a large centri. The cubes get it into the sweet spot sooner. It doesnt take more than 8psi to put a smile on my face. One thing that is kind of annoying, is two tial 50mm surge valves screaming in your ear at part throttle. It makes me mash the gas just to shut them up. Then the blower sounds like a jet. Plenty of noises for sure.

sorry about the wind noise

RealQuick · 09-09-2021, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by eLeSthree

I won't argue with that...

I do love the feel of extra displacement and a large centri. The cubes get it into the sweet spot sooner. It doesnt take more than 8psi to put a smile on my face. One thing that is kind of annoying, is two tial 50mm surge valves screaming in your ear at part throttle. It makes me mash the gas just to shut them up. Then the blower sounds like a jet. Plenty of noises for sure.

sorry about the wind noise

Your car sounds great!

RealQuick · 09-09-2021, 01:11 PM

I wish I can host vids… so I can upload here.

stevieturbo · 09-09-2021, 02:24 PM

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I wish I can host vids… so I can upload here.

you don't need to host, just upload to youtube etc same as everyone.

Greenhornet2 · 09-09-2021, 02:39 PM

PD wins the street if you ask me, but PD wasn't in his question. 900whp or less PD. more than that personally i'd probably go Turbo. I really don't like the centri's but it is really only because I don't like their noise. Though Centri is easier than turbo IMO.

RealQuick · 09-09-2021, 03:31 PM

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you don't need to host, just upload to youtube etc same as everyone.

For some reason it won’t let me create a channel to upload vids.

RealQuick · 09-10-2021, 08:54 AM

2nd gear 8psi pull

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RealQuick · 09-10-2021, 08:55 AM

2nd gear 8psi pull

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RealQuick · 09-10-2021, 08:58 AM

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Dyno Pull

RealQuick · 09-10-2021, 09:26 AM

Idle

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09-08-2021, 06:48 AM	#29
gunchamp Drives: 15 Camaro SS Join Date: Oct 2018 Location: Mountains of central PA Posts: 1,442	Ess system and dont look back. Turbos are not quite as fun on the street which is where we do most of our driving. Belt slippage isnt a thing with the ESS kit and massive power is available by simply changing the head unit and pully down. Turbos have a crap ton more plumbing and are much more complicated to install and work on. Turbos also quiet the exhaust not quite a bit. Just my opinion, take it for what its worth __________________ 15 Camaro SS- GPI max top end, ESS Vortech V3 9psi, ID 1050s, ZL1 pump, JMS bap, Long tubes, Corsa extreme, Circle D pro 5C, 391 rear, DSS carbon drive shaft, poly cradle bushings, tuned by Ted Jannetty and much much more

09-09-2021, 09:32 AM	#32
CamaroCracka Drives: 2010 Turbo LS3 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Palm Bay, FL Posts: 2,735	My neighbors think mine is pretty loud, but I don't want a car that sounds like uncapped headers for street driving. I'm not sure how the PD guys get any traction from a dig on the street. Mine blows the tires off pretty quick unless I roll into the throttle. PD guys seem to get better times at strip, have less issues and look better. Keeping the hot side from burning things up is a pain and there definitely seems to be more of a learning curve in getting turbo HP to convert to low ETs. However, I can run HPDEs all day and never break 205 on the coolant temp with the stock radiator. __________________ 2010 SS - On3 kit with downpipe cutout, CTR 78/80, CompCam 239/251 620/632 122+4, E85, Z28 suspension and ZL1 diff with Outlaw axles. Gen6 ZL1/1LE brakes. 2011 Vert - 416/w 230/236 .612/.602 115lsa, 1LE suspension w/32mm rear bar. Z28 diff. ZL1 brakes.

09-09-2021, 02:39 PM	#37
Greenhornet2 Drives: 2011 Camaro 2SS LS3 Whipple Join Date: May 2019 Location: Connecticut Posts: 1,925	PD wins the street if you ask me, but PD wasn't in his question. 900whp or less PD. more than that personally i'd probably go Turbo. I really don't like the centri's but it is really only because I don't like their noise. Though Centri is easier than turbo IMO. __________________ Whipple 2.9 CAI ID1050x injectors ZL1 Pump JRE FPCM JMS Voltage booster JRE Rough Idle blower cam BTR .660 springs CHE trunnion kit 1 7/8 Speed Engineering Borla Atak JRE scoop 1.5" lowering springs BMR trailing arms and toe links Cradle inserts 704WHP 603WTQ 93 octane

09-10-2021, 08:54 AM	#39
RealQuick Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS M6 - Intake/Exhaust Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Bridgewater Posts: 693	2nd gear 8psi pull https://vimeo.com/601863444 Last edited by RealQuick; 09-10-2021 at 09:30 AM.

09-10-2021, 08:55 AM	#40
RealQuick Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS M6 - Intake/Exhaust Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Bridgewater Posts: 693	2nd gear 8psi pull https://vimeo.com/601864419 Last edited by RealQuick; 09-10-2021 at 09:30 AM.

09-09-2021, 01:11 PM	#35
RealQuick Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS M6 - Intake/Exhaust Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Bridgewater Posts: 693	I wish I can host vids… so I can upload here.

09-10-2021, 08:58 AM	#41
RealQuick Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS M6 - Intake/Exhaust Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Bridgewater Posts: 693	https://vimeo.com/601865753 Dyno Pull

09-10-2021, 09:26 AM	#42
RealQuick Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS M6 - Intake/Exhaust Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Bridgewater Posts: 693	Idle https://vimeo.com/601884030