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geo0006 · 03-16-2015, 05:17 PM

From the article:
Car and Driver - C7 Z06 vs GT-R NISMO vs 991 Turbo S, the winner is based on the best bang for the buck.

9 pictures and and complete article

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MEDISIN · 03-16-2015, 05:28 PM

Interesting they would pit the manual Z06 against two automatics. I suspect the reviewers prefer manual transmission and since the other two aren't available in manual...

That is the highest trap speed I have ever seen for a stock 911 turbo S. Most trap 124mph. How did they get 130??

ChrisBlair · 03-17-2015, 05:17 PM

3:42:1? Surprised I am. I would expect some Zo6 owners will be installing higher numerical rear gears

geo0006 · 03-17-2015, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisBlair

3:42:1? Surprised I am. I would expect some Zo6 owners will be installing higher numerical rear gears

They would also need to get much stickier tires.

ChrisBlair · 03-17-2015, 06:47 PM

So you are not surprised at the relatively low rear end gear?

Bad@ssCamaro · 03-17-2015, 07:50 PM

Does anyone else think the width of the Corvette tires in the rear could be a slight hinderance? With that extra width adding more weight and more rotating mass.

Cymaro · 03-17-2015, 10:10 PM

2.5 sec 0-60!!!!!!! Is that real?

GretchenGotGrowl · 03-18-2015, 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by ChrisBlair

3:42:1? Surprised I am. I would expect some Zo6 owners will be installing higher numerical rear gears

I'm surprised. This post has the gearing for both the M7 and A8 and you can see the A8 is much more aggressive.

http://media.chevrolet.com/media/us/...2015.tab1.html

It would take about a 4.80:1 final ratio in the M7 to be equivelent to the A8. That explains why the 0-60 is so much better for the automatic.

Frank in MD · 03-18-2015, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by MEDISIN

Interesting they would pit the manual Z06 against two automatics.

I don't get it, they already said the auto is faster than the manual in the C7 Z06. Why put a slower version of it against two clearly (more expensive) faster cars?

shaffe · 03-18-2015, 02:25 PM

Agreed, why did they test the stick vs auto

geo0006 · 03-18-2015, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Cymaro

2.5 sec 0-60!!!!!!! Is that real?

for the Porsche , Yes

VADER SS L99 · 03-24-2015, 09:55 AM

So the lightest most powerful car here gets its ass handed to it in acceleration.

How the F' does that happen. I can kinda understand it from just a ET perspective because the others have AWD and dual clutch transmissions but look at the trap speed difference. That's kind of embarrassing price difference or not. The GTR is 350lbs heavier with 50 less HP and 70 less TQ but turns out a 3MPH better trap speed.

The 911 comparison is almost just as bad with it being 90 less HP, 136 less TQ + weighing 60lbs more

. Not only that but I think it lost on the road course as well which is suppose to be its battleground.

IMO the new Stingray C7 is fantastic but the Z06 is a let down. Gone are the days where the Z06 dominated all within double its price. Its now just a good performance car in the $75k-110k range. I would like to see a $110K GTR vs $110K automatic Z06 review. Maybe then it might actually win a comparison test.

AZCamaroFan · 03-24-2015, 10:21 AM

look closely at the gear ratio's between the cars. plus isn't the Z06 limited by it's aero, from what i've been reading?

KMPrenger · 03-24-2015, 12:47 PM

FYI...

There is an updated story on MotorTrend where they said the Z06 suspension was not set properly. Once they did this, they saw big improvements on the track.

Check it out.
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/..._track_retest/

03-16-2015, 05:17 PM	#1
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03-16-2015, 05:28 PM	#2
MEDISIN Drives: 2011 CTS-V Sedan Join Date: May 2009 Location: Chapel Hill, NC Posts: 1,505 View My Garage	Interesting they would pit the manual Z06 against two automatics. I suspect the reviewers prefer manual transmission and since the other two aren't available in manual... That is the highest trap speed I have ever seen for a stock 911 turbo S. Most trap 124mph. How did they get 130?? __________________ 2012 - Present: 2011 CTS-V Sedan, A6, Airaid, Zmax TB and Tune by R.P.M. = 535 hp/503 lb-ft. 2009 - 2012: 2010 2SS RS IBM M6, MGW Shifter, BMR Trailing Arms/Tunnel Brace, Roto-Fab CAI, VMAX Ported TB, Kooks 6511-Complete (Headers, X-Pipe, Mufflers), dyno tuned by R.P.M. = 415 hp/412 lb-ft. "Not giving a f^k is truly the greatest luxury, and no luxury car gives fewer f^k's than a CTS-V." - Matt Hardigree

03-17-2015, 05:17 PM	#3
ChrisBlair Buick 455 Fan Drives: 1970 Buick, 2012 1SS LS3 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Boston MA Posts: 5,957	3:42:1? Surprised I am. I would expect some Zo6 owners will be installing higher numerical rear gears __________________

03-17-2015, 06:47 PM	#5
ChrisBlair Buick 455 Fan Drives: 1970 Buick, 2012 1SS LS3 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Boston MA Posts: 5,957	So you are not surprised at the relatively low rear end gear? __________________

03-17-2015, 07:50 PM	#6
Bad@ssCamaro BeckyD Rocks :-) Drives: 2015 1SS/1LE Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: CT Posts: 5,778 View My Garage	Does anyone else think the width of the Corvette tires in the rear could be a slight hinderance? With that extra width adding more weight and more rotating mass. __________________ 2015 CRT 1SS/1LE RS/Recaro's/NPP/Nav/Rear vision pkg./BA speaker upgrade. Stage 3 BMR cam, ARH 1 7/8 headers, CAI, BMR 1.25 drop springs, JPSS Billet Bushings, Peddars Cradle Bushings...460 whp...so far....SOLD, but not forgotten!

03-17-2015, 10:10 PM	#7
Cymaro Drives: 2010 Camaro LT2/RS Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Ames, IA Posts: 248	2.5 sec 0-60!!!!!!! Is that real?

03-18-2015, 02:25 PM	#10
shaffe Drives: 21 Bronco Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Carol Stream Posts: 6,024	Agreed, why did they test the stick vs auto

03-24-2015, 09:55 AM	#12
VADER SS L99 Drives: 2013 A6 GT 5.0 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Edmond, OK Posts: 2,909	So the lightest most powerful car here gets its ass handed to it in acceleration. How the F' does that happen. I can kinda understand it from just a ET perspective because the others have AWD and dual clutch transmissions but look at the trap speed difference. That's kind of embarrassing price difference or not. The GTR is 350lbs heavier with 50 less HP and 70 less TQ but turns out a 3MPH better trap speed. The 911 comparison is almost just as bad with it being 90 less HP, 136 less TQ + weighing 60lbs more . Not only that but I think it lost on the road course as well which is suppose to be its battleground. IMO the new Stingray C7 is fantastic but the Z06 is a let down. Gone are the days where the Z06 dominated all within double its price. Its now just a good performance car in the $75k-110k range. I would like to see a $110K GTR vs $110K automatic Z06 review. Maybe then it might actually win a comparison test. __________________ BLK/BLK 1SS/RS Ordered 11-01-2009 Took delivery 12-22-2009. Heads/cam/converter/bolt ons. SOLD Feb 2015 to fund 6th gen LT1 SS with 8L90E.

03-24-2015, 10:21 AM	#13
AZCamaroFan Camaro6 2016-2018 Drives: sometimes Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Phoenix Posts: 18,450	look closely at the gear ratio's between the cars. plus isn't the Z06 limited by it's aero, from what i've been reading?

03-24-2015, 12:47 PM	#14
KMPrenger Drives: 16 Camaro SS, 15 Colorado Join Date: May 2009 Location: Jefferson City, Missouri Posts: 13,943	FYI... There is an updated story on MotorTrend where they said the Z06 suspension was not set properly. Once they did this, they saw big improvements on the track. Check it out. http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/..._track_retest/ __________________ 2016 Camaro 1SS - 8-speed - NPP - Black bowties 2010 Camaro 1LT V6 (Sold. I will miss her!)