Stage 3 Cam or 3.91 Gears first? - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

Gixxer 1000 · 09-23-2018, 06:09 PM

Hey guys Im thinking about getting a stage 3 cam from Texas Speed and the 3.91 gears for my 2012 1SS manual 6 but one of my coworkers recommend that I get the gears first but I really love the way a cammed car sounds, so far my car has Stainless Work long tubes, Dynomax 3 inch catback and a CIA by Araid the car has been tuned by Jannetty Racing.

flyinglow57 · 09-23-2018, 06:38 PM

I did cam first then 7 years later did the gears. The cam sounds awesome like tou said. But the gears made it soo much more fun. I believe id do 391’s first if i had to only pick ine this year and other the next

frankwjr · 09-23-2018, 06:45 PM

gears....

peace

Gixxer 1000 · 09-23-2018, 07:20 PM

Ok Thanks guys I think I will go with the gears first.

John_C · 09-23-2018, 07:49 PM

Cam...

You'll thank me later.

Nothing like revving to 6,800 and not running out of power up top while running 11's on a street tire with traction control on leaving at idle.

I still cut flat 1.7 60 ft's in the hot humid summer heat with A6 and Continental DWS 09 all season tires.

Bandit63 · 09-23-2018, 10:41 PM

I went 3.91 gear and 3400 stall, then the next year, TSP stage 3.2 cam and headers

pyroguy · 09-24-2018, 06:58 AM

I'd do the cam. You can get the best of both worlds with a cam vs. gears. With the cam you get more power and a nice lope where gears you only get more go.

lazerlemonta · 09-24-2018, 07:02 AM

Clutch and gear should be the first two mods to these cars. You can make it to mid 11s on a stock cam. Everyone loves shoving a cam in a heavy car with no gear and wonder why they under perform. Good luck OP and supporting mods are key to a successful cam car.

Chris49066SS · 09-24-2018, 12:19 PM

Why not both? Mine is at GPI right now getting the SS4 cam, 4k converter, and 3.91s

Gixxer 1000 · 09-24-2018, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris49066SS

Why not both? Mine is at GPI right now getting the SS4 cam, 4k converter, and 3.91s

I only have enough to do one of the mods now the other will have to wait until sometime next year.

booneSS13 · 09-24-2018, 12:35 PM

3.91 gears first. If you are N/a I'd do 4.10's. A geared fbo camaro will beat a cammed camaro all day long. The gearing in these cars a HORRIBLE. a cam makes the low end where the car needs the most help even worse.

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Chris49066SS · 09-24-2018, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by booneSS13

3.91 gears first. If you are N/a I'd do 4.10's. A geared fbo camaro will beat a cammed camaro all day long. The gearing in these cars a HORRIBLE. a cam makes the low end where the car needs the most help even worse.

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Agreed. And, BooneSS13, look at your number of posts!

Anyway, OP, look at the long run and how each mod affects how your car will run. Doing the cam without the gears= You're going to lose your get-up-and-go, as stock the manual cars are 3.45. Whereas, if you do the gears first, then you will already be set up for success when you do the cam.

VR Baron · 09-24-2018, 05:42 PM

Thinking on gears also. Sure get more bottom end tq. Like equal to 50 lb ft. I have a stage 1 custom cam with good power and tq so this should be nice.

Clarkstar · 09-24-2018, 05:50 PM

Does anyone make a 4.33 or 4.56 gear set for these rearends?? I'm not finding anything... I have 3.91, not sure 4.11 will be enough difference...

09-23-2018, 06:09 PM	#1
Gixxer 1000 Gixxer 1000 Drives: 2012 Camaro 1SS M6 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Nashville TN Posts: 216	Stage 3 Cam or 3.91 Gears first? Hey guys Im thinking about getting a stage 3 cam from Texas Speed and the 3.91 gears for my 2012 1SS manual 6 but one of my coworkers recommend that I get the gears first but I really love the way a cammed car sounds, so far my car has Stainless Work long tubes, Dynomax 3 inch catback and a CIA by Araid the car has been tuned by Jannetty Racing. __________________

09-23-2018, 06:45 PM	#3
frankwjr Drives: 2010 SS 2SS M6 Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Smithsburg, Md. Posts: 2,446	gears.... peace __________________ 2010 SS 2SS M6 - Tune by RDP dynoSteve!(Woot) - Daily Driver - *150K!* - All work by me...

09-23-2018, 07:20 PM	#4
Gixxer 1000 Gixxer 1000 Drives: 2012 Camaro 1SS M6 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Nashville TN Posts: 216	Ok Thanks guys I think I will go with the gears first. __________________

09-23-2018, 07:49 PM	#5
John_C LSx FTW!!! Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS RS Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: TN Posts: 767	Cam... You'll thank me later. Nothing like revving to 6,800 and not running out of power up top while running 11's on a street tire with traction control on leaving at idle. I still cut flat 1.7 60 ft's in the hot humid summer heat with A6 and Continental DWS 09 all season tires. __________________ 2010 2SS RS A6 781rwhp on E85 Stage 2 ProCharger D1X Circle D 3400 Triple Disc Kooks Jet Hot Headers Kooks Full 3in exhaust Trick Flow GenX 255's Polished PAC .660's & Ti-retainers TSP VVT 3.2 cam kit w/DoD Delete Smith Bro's Trunnion kit AEM X-Series OBDII Widebands FIC ID1300x Injectors GM ZL1 High Output Fuel Pump DSX Tuning Flex Sensor DSX Auxiliary Fuel System Tim King Stage 4 Max Effort CTSV 6L90 DSS 1 piece aluminum driveshaft JRE 6L80E / 6L90E Dipstick NGK Iridium IX spark plugs #7 heat range Mighty Mouse Camaro 5 Wild w/-12an and Billet Black HP Tuners VCM Suite

09-23-2018, 10:41 PM	#6
Bandit63 Drives: 2011 Camaro SS Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Paducah Ky Posts: 257	I went 3.91 gear and 3400 stall, then the next year, TSP stage 3.2 cam and headers __________________ MRR M228 Wheels, Circle D 3200 Stall, 3.91 Gear, Texas Speed VVT 3.2 Cam, CHE Rocker Arm Bushings, Texas Speed Headers, No Cats

09-23-2018, 06:38 PM	#2
flyinglow57 Drives: rumble bee,2SS 6sp Join Date: May 2009 Location: pittsburgh, PA Posts: 539	I did cam first then 7 years later did the gears. The cam sounds awesome like tou said. But the gears made it soo much more fun. I believe id do 391’s first if i had to only pick ine this year and other the next

09-24-2018, 06:58 AM	#7
pyroguy Started#gottalovethatblue Drives: ABM #831 Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: TN Posts: 6,913 View My Garage	I'd do the cam. You can get the best of both worlds with a cam vs. gears. With the cam you get more power and a nice lope where gears you only get more go. __________________ '10 Camaro 2SS/RS \| Aqua Blue #831 of 3,903 \| Silver Stripes Check out my build thread

09-24-2018, 07:02 AM	#8
lazerlemonta Drives: 2010 C6 1LT Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Virginia Posts: 879 View My Garage	Clutch and gear should be the first two mods to these cars. You can make it to mid 11s on a stock cam. Everyone loves shoving a cam in a heavy car with no gear and wonder why they under perform. Good luck OP and supporting mods are key to a successful cam car. __________________ 2010 C6 JET STREAM BLUE BOLT ONS TO THE EXTREME, GPI 281cc HEADS, Darth_V8r SPEC CAM, FAST 102 INTAKE, CRANK SCRAPER, QUARTER MASTER 7.25" CLUTCH, RPM 3.90 STAGE II DIF, Z51 Gear Set AND E85 Best ET 10.58 @ 131.8 stock heads and stock cam 453/445 SAE 10.62@134.82 GPI 281CC Heads, SS4 Cam and X1 Intake Best 1/8 6.80@105.75 Best MPH 134.82

09-24-2018, 12:19 PM	#9
Chris49066SS Drives: 2010 SS L99 Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: Missouri Posts: 1,635	Why not both? Mine is at GPI right now getting the SS4 cam, 4k converter, and 3.91s __________________ Previous PB:11.079 @ 122.99mph.. New setup time: TBD The 11.079 pass: https://youtu.be/pz27Zq54t_E Build thread - www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=555371

09-24-2018, 12:35 PM	#11
booneSS13 Drives: 2013 Camaro SS LS3 Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Davenport IA Posts: 718	3.91 gears first. If you are N/a I'd do 4.10's. A geared fbo camaro will beat a cammed camaro all day long. The gearing in these cars a HORRIBLE. a cam makes the low end where the car needs the most help even worse. Sent from my VS988 using Tapatalk __________________ *Romans 5:8* But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us. -Fastlane Cold Air Intake, NPP cat back exhaust, Stainless Works LT Headers, 2r max camshaft, Stage 3 Ported Heads (Manley Stainless steel values, titanium retainers, dual valve springs, bronze guides), Wiseco Forged Pistons, K1 Forged Rods, Clevite Bearings, Factory Crankshaft, Comp Cams rocker arm trunion kit, Morel 5315 lifters, JP performance single billet timing chain, Melling oil pump, Spec stage 3+ clutch and flywheel, BMR trailing arms, Nitto 555r 305/35/20.

09-24-2018, 05:42 PM	#13
VR Baron SoCal Camaro5 Race Team Drives: 2021 Shadow Grey Camaro 2SS 1LE Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: SO CAL Posts: 14,288	Thinking on gears also. Sure get more bottom end tq. Like equal to 50 lb ft. I have a stage 1 custom cam with good power and tq so this should be nice.

09-24-2018, 05:50 PM	#14
Clarkstar Drives: 2013 1SS 1LE Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Ixonia wi Posts: 1,456	Does anyone make a 4.33 or 4.56 gear set for these rearends?? I'm not finding anything... I have 3.91, not sure 4.11 will be enough difference... __________________ 2013 1le- Katech 416 short block, TSP custom grind cam, LOD intake, cnc heads by F.ED., Nick William's 102mm T.B., CORN fed, Pedders coilovers. Performance street alingnment by Justin at Lake Country Alignment and dyno tune by Late Model Throttle. 603 h.p. 495 ft lbs tq.