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Old 10-08-2018, 03:58 PM   #1
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Hot Start Issues

I am seeing some hot start issues on my '14 Z/28. When I come off the track or anytime the car is warm and shut it down and then try to restart it within a few minutes, it cranks quite slowly. It typically starts but it doesn't crank very well. I have already replaced the battery, is the starter next? Anyone else seen this?
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Old 10-08-2018, 04:39 PM   #2
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I've read here slow cranking is the nature of the LS7. Mine cranks slow from time to time. Was concerning at first but it fires up each and every time.
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Old 10-08-2018, 04:40 PM   #3
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There is not a lot of room between the starter solenoid and the exhaust, and that gets a lot worst if you add headers, ask me how i know, so whats going on is the solenoid is getting hot and the starter is not working at its best.
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Old 10-08-2018, 04:49 PM   #4
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Happens all the time, regardless of temp. Obviously heat makes it worse, but it's the nature of the high compression imo. Probably also due to having a smaller than normal battery for weight savings.
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Old 10-08-2018, 06:28 PM   #5
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Thanks guys for the responses...
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Old 10-08-2018, 07:19 PM   #6
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Mine does the same, especially on track days when everything gets wicked hot. Though disconcerting, it's never failed to start.
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Old 10-08-2018, 07:47 PM   #7
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I am seeing some hot start issues on my '14 Z/28. When I come off the track or anytime the car is warm and shut it down and then try to restart it within a few minutes, it cranks quite slowly. It typically starts but it doesn't crank very well. I have already replaced the battery, is the starter next? Anyone else seen this?
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He's here pretty often. He had the same issue, got progressively worse.
Dealer found a weak starter, replaced it under warranty. Done.
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Old 10-08-2018, 09:18 PM   #8
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Good thread. I too have occasional “lazy” starts when hot but it fires.


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Old 10-09-2018, 12:48 PM   #9
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I have an after market warranty on the car, maybe I will see if I can get them to give me a new starter...
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Old 10-09-2018, 07:28 PM   #10
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Happens all the time, regardless of temp. Obviously heat makes it worse, but it's the nature of the high compression imo. Probably also due to having a smaller than normal battery for weight savings.
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Old 10-10-2018, 08:10 PM   #11
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My car has been heavily modded and that exacerbated the sluggish turnover. There were times when it almost wouldn’t start (only when hot). Replaced starter (under warranty). Still a bit sluggish, but huge difference.
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Old 10-10-2018, 09:02 PM   #12
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Sounds like it could be due to starter heat soak. See these threads about guys having the same problem that fixed it (after having replacing the battery & starter) by adding either a 2nd engine block ground cable or a positive bypass cable.

https://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=504199

https://www.camaro5.com/forums/showt...=399658&page=4
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Old 01-07-2019, 03:00 PM   #13
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Sounds like it could be due to starter heat soak. See these threads about guys having the same problem that fixed it (after having replacing the battery & starter) by adding either a 2nd engine block ground cable or a positive bypass cable.

https://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=504199

https://www.camaro5.com/forums/showt...=399658&page=4
Thank you!! Problem fixed.

As folks read the rest of my reply they should bear in mind that I had significant mods done in late May of 2018, incl. AR headers. The issue began soon thereafter and got worse during the hot Texas Summer.

Prior to mods I always noticed that it was slower than other cars (except for ZL1) to crank over. However, after the mods I noticed it cranking more slowly on hot starts and then during the Summer the problem got much worse (as in click, click, click, crank worse..). I had a new starter installed just as temps were starting to cool down. Seemed to help, but I could tell that it wasn't back to normal.

I had the 2nd ground cable installed about a month ago and and problem fixed. In fact, today it's in the low 70s. I drove the Z fairly hard and oil temp got to 210+ and had zero problem cranking over. We'll see how it does in the Summer heat, but so far, so good.
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Old 01-07-2019, 04:40 PM   #14
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Can you provide some details regarding where and how you installed the 2nd ground cable? I bought the cables and am ready to install them but I would love to get more info on your install.
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