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Really? The high horsepower cars out there will eat this alive. Not sure how 300 hp is amazing. Unless the car weighs 1500 lbs. Unless you are 23 years old...
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This is 97 LT1 category. 17 years later and the LT1 has an equal.
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I really liked my Focus ST.... was a very fun car.... however I simply never quite liked the whole FWD thing... now if I could get it with AWD that would be a very different story!!!
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Because I don't know, and you must by the flavour of your posts on this topic, what are the outputs of this cars most direct competition (Mazdaspeed3, Subaru WRX and Volkswagen GTI, others I may have missed)?
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A decade or so ago when the Evo & WRX had such specs it was kinda impressive. That was a tick behind where contemporary V8s were. Now its where V6s are. So no, the engine isn't all that impressive. And lightweight? Your definition of lightweight probably differs quite a bit from mine. A compact/subcompact car weighing over 3000 lbs is not light. And over 3400 (3200+ lb Focus ST + 200 lbs of AWD & other upgrades) it would be even more not light.
So the engine isn't overly groundbreaking (the Cobalt SS hit 130 hp/L 7 or 8 years ago, albeit with a slightly smaller engine), and its not going to be particularly light. Is it crap? No, but its nothing to really get excited about either.
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Impressive? No. Neat? Sure.
You can crow all day about a high HP car, but I would choose a 300 hp AWD car on a snowy day over any RWD V6 or v8. 580 hp might as well be 58 hp if the weather doesn't let you use it. Also in almost any off-pavement racing AWD is preferred. So an American 300 hp/tq AWD car for less than a 39,000 WRX STI? That would be sweet. |
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Here is my ST with the 2.0 EcoBoost with just some bolt-ons and a tune.... the 2.0 EcoBoost Focus ST is rated at 252 HP / 270 TQ...
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That doesn't answer nothing. You must be 19.
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? Why, because he's an auto enthusiast and not a Camaro zealot, or because he doesn't poop on other car threads like a moron? This is the "...other cars discussion"....if you don't like it...shoo fly. This car will likely be faster than any stock v6 Camaro, and last I checked lots of people on this site seem to drive those.
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Who told you?
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