10-21-2008, 09:36 PM | #15 |
Wow there is a car guy right there. I kind of just turned stupid right there because I kind of knew what you were talking about, but not really. So are you saying that since it's DI there will be no lag from you hitting the pedal, to it going? Or maybe a little lag?
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10-22-2008, 01:34 PM | #17 |
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Right, but it's usually never that direct. I know magnuson's on an LS1 only bumped the power 120hp or so...and that was with 7+ psi. With 7+psi on this little guy...if you were careful with the motor...you could be pushing 460bhp! That's pretty impressive for someone who might want to increase the power sometime down the road....
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I was talking about the relationship between the incredibly low amount of boost (because of the compression ratio) and the tremendous power reward.
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10-22-2008, 08:43 PM | #20 |
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Keep in mind those test numbers were in a CTS. With these same things done in a V-6 Camaro it could be better..... but you can't say no until it's tried. It did say in the magazine that they would have applications for the V-6 Camaro.
Also another interesting note; Road & Track says that you can actually purchase D3 parts for your CTS through your Cadillac dealer! Now I don't know about you, but that's pretty impressive that GM would do that so that tells me that this company is for real.
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That's amazing that GM would partner would offer D3 products.
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I am no expert on DI, but I think a limiting factor is the injection system's ability to overcome the cylinder pressure. Add a lot of boost and the system could really struggle to get the fuel into the cylinder. I would imagine upgrading of the factory system would get pretty expensive and complex. If the maximum bmep in the cylinder is 2000 psi, the injection system will have to be capable of much more than that to accurately put the correct amount of fuel in. Upping this significantly through FI may cause a lot of issues in fuel control.
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Yeah it's not going to beat a GT. I've always been amazed how fast the GT is considering the size of the engine, and the weight of the car. Talk about optimized gearing. I mean, it's less powerful than an LS1 Z28, it's at least a hundred pounds heavier, but it's a tick faster.
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I'm sure he's referring to the current gen Mustang GT. Which yeah does 0-60 in like 5.1 seconds.... My SS supercharged Cobalt runs with previous gen Mustang GT's... lol I'm sure the Camaro V6 also won't have a problem with them.
The V6 Camaro stock vs a stock current Gen Mustang GT is going to get easily beat by the Mustang GT. We're talking over a half second in difference in acceleration between the two. Not to mention a current gen Mustang GT will do 13.6 in the 1/4 vs the 14.0-14.5 est 0-60 with the V6 Camaro. My prediction is that the Camaro V6 stock will do 0-60 in 5.7-5.9 seconds. I can't see it doing 60 in less than that stock. Also I don't see the 1/4 being any quicker than 14.1 and that's going to be with a skilled driver. Hopefully the V.6 from what we are hearing will be responsive to mods! One can only hope! As for me I now have my sites on a 09 Cobalt SS Turbocharged... These things are doing the 1/4 14.0 according to the mags, but they're doing under 14 bone stock with a skilled driver... Someone even got one to do it in 13.6...
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comparing a vehicle that came out 6 years ago vs a vehicle that came out this year is not a decent comparison. but as ive stated before, im fairly certain the mustang GT will beat the V-6 Camaro. due mostly in part from the higher torque of the GT being able to get off the line.
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