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KaBoom1701 · 08-31-2017, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Supercup

Have Han's - will track -

No Han's - no track

I just might copy your seat belts and rear harness set up.

Whats the parts number is you dont mind me asking.

roost3r · 08-31-2017, 07:39 PM

Thats who I stole the idea from

Supercup · 08-31-2017, 07:40 PM

Kaboom 1701 - Given you are local I would PM Z Beast - he is in Huntington Beach and just took his out to put in roll bar - see his thread below. Maybe he would sell you his BK and you could save a few $

link:http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=506566

If he is not selling or already did:

Brey Krause Harness Bar - Part No. R-1150

I got mine from OG racing - no shipping cost - retail is $627

www.ogracing.com

link: http://www.bkauto.com/R_1150_Harness...r_p/r-1150.htm

Schroth belts are from Sube Sports in Huntington Beach. they are great to deal with - don't discount but know their stuff. Owner is former Sube rally driver (factory team) and former USA rally champion. Link to belts below

Link: https://www.subesports.com/schroth/p...-asm/sch-20070

When you order your belts have Sube Sports tell Schroth to change out the lap belt hook up's at the bottom from bolt on to clip on - so you can clip them on the harness bar. Also that makes it easier to move then in and out of the car when not going to track. They will do that at no charge as long as you order them that way.

See photos to see what I am talking about. Also on BK website there is photo of hook up point.

NVNO1 · 08-31-2017, 08:36 PM

Thanks for the reply. That carbon frame looks sweet. Might have scoop one of those up

68camaroz28 · 04-04-2018, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Supercup

Here are a few photos since I got my car back this week. In addition to the list noted at the top, I also switched out the rear bowtie with a black one. For anyone interested the black one I used it is what comes standard on the 2017 ZL1 - I ordered from my dealer for $50.

Also one of the nice things about these belts from Schroth is the are both DOT compliant (so legal to wear on street) and FIA compliant so legal for the track. That is why it has the red buttom instead of a cam lock for the release of the belts.

I was checking belt installation and noticed something that does not seem correct. The shoulder ASM belt should be to the inside and it seems its to the drivers door side. Shouldn't those belts be reversed?

Og Neon · 04-05-2018, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by 68camaroz28

I was checking belt installation and noticed something that does not seem correct. The shoulder ASM belt should be to the inside and it seems its to the drivers door side. Shouldn't those belts be reversed?

68camaroz28 is right. I have the exact same setup and the ASM is supposed to be on the inside harness not the outside. It should have the same effect as a normal 3point harness with your inside shoulder going inward in an accident.

olblue75 · 04-05-2018, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Og Neon

68camaroz28 is right. I have the exact same setup and the ASM is supposed to be on the inside harness not the outside. It should have the same effect as a normal 3point harness with your inside shoulder going inward in an accident.

Can you explain ASM and correct location???

Og Neon · 04-05-2018, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by olblue75

Can you explain ASM and correct location???

In an accident using just a 4 point harness, you risk the chance of submarining under the seatbelt without a 5th or 6th point. So most 4 points are not allowed on road courses. The ASM 4 point is approved because the inner strap expands in an accident causing the inside shoulder to rotate more then the outside, and this motion locks the hips in the seat a certain way and prevents you from submarining under the belts. Thats the definition in a nutshell and hope this helps.

68camaroz28 · 04-05-2018, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by olblue75

Can you explain ASM and correct location???

ASM=Anti-Submarining technology
If you google "Schroth Racing Profi II ASM FE Harnesses sr20070" you can find a lot of information including simulations with dummy's on how the ASM works. Og Neon did a nice job of explaining.

Supercup · 04-06-2018, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Og Neon

68camaroz28 is right. I have the exact same setup and the ASM is supposed to be on the inside harness not the outside. It should have the same effect as a normal 3point harness with your inside shoulder going inward in an accident.

thanks to both you and 68camaroz28 - I will look into that and switch if not correct - appreciate the catch!

Supercup · 04-07-2018, 12:03 AM

BK eyelet hook up for lap belts photo as requested - note safety wire on clips to keep them from coming off

Supercup · 04-10-2018, 10:17 PM

Here are a few more views of the inboard hook up.

Using BK 9150 - which came with my harness bar.

link 9150: http://www.bkauto.com/R_9150_Inside_...o_p/r-9150.htm

68camaroz28 · 04-17-2018, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Supercup

Kaboom 1701 - Given you are local I would PM Z Beast - he is in Huntington Beach and just took his out to put in roll bar - see his thread below. Maybe he would sell you his BK and you could save a few $

link:http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=506566

If he is not selling or already did:

Brey Krause Harness Bar - Part No. R-1150

I got mine from OG racing - no shipping cost - retail is $627

www.ogracing.com

link: http://www.bkauto.com/R_1150_Harness...r_p/r-1150.htm

Schroth belts are from Sube Sports in Huntington Beach. they are great to deal with - don't discount but know their stuff. Owner is former Sube rally driver (factory team) and former USA rally champion. Link to belts below

Link: https://www.subesports.com/schroth/p...-asm/sch-20070

When you order your belts have Sube Sports tell Schroth to change out the lap belt hook up's at the bottom from bolt on to clip on - so you can clip them on the harness bar. Also that makes it easier to move then in and out of the car when not going to track. They will do that at no charge as long as you order them that way.

See photos to see what I am talking about. Also on BK website there is photo of hook up point.

For anyone thinking of obtaining Sch 20070 do it where and while you can at the $335 price range as the new price from Schroth is now a whopping $485, a $150 increase. Know Summit still had some in stock with the $335 price and free shipping.

serviceguy · 03-02-2019, 05:42 PM

Can anybody supply a photo of what the Schroth 4 point ASM II looks like connected to the BK Harness bar behind the seat at the top. I ordered / received my products from SUBE sports per the recommendation, however, having difficulty figuring out how the belt wraps/ connects to the harness bar and what it should look like. I have the quick connect clip ends per the recommendation, any photos would be greatly appreciated. Thank you

08-31-2017, 07:40 PM	#31
Supercup Life Is Short Enjoy It! Drives: Original Owner 15 Z/28 #934 Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: S. Cal Posts: 891	Kaboom 1701 - Given you are local I would PM Z Beast - he is in Huntington Beach and just took his out to put in roll bar - see his thread below. Maybe he would sell you his BK and you could save a few $ link:http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=506566 If he is not selling or already did: Brey Krause Harness Bar - Part No. R-1150 I got mine from OG racing - no shipping cost - retail is $627 www.ogracing.com link: http://www.bkauto.com/R_1150_Harness...r_p/r-1150.htm Schroth belts are from Sube Sports in Huntington Beach. they are great to deal with - don't discount but know their stuff. Owner is former Sube rally driver (factory team) and former USA rally champion. Link to belts below Link: https://www.subesports.com/schroth/p...-asm/sch-20070 When you order your belts have Sube Sports tell Schroth to change out the lap belt hook up's at the bottom from bolt on to clip on - so you can clip them on the harness bar. Also that makes it easier to move then in and out of the car when not going to track. They will do that at no charge as long as you order them that way. See photos to see what I am talking about. Also on BK website there is photo of hook up point. Attached Images Last edited by Supercup; 08-31-2017 at 07:50 PM.

04-07-2018, 12:03 AM	#39
Supercup Life Is Short Enjoy It! Drives: Original Owner 15 Z/28 #934 Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: S. Cal Posts: 891	BK eyelet hook up for lap belts photo as requested - note safety wire on clips to keep them from coming off Attached Images

04-10-2018, 10:17 PM	#40
Supercup Life Is Short Enjoy It! Drives: Original Owner 15 Z/28 #934 Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: S. Cal Posts: 891	Here are a few more views of the inboard hook up. Using BK 9150 - which came with my harness bar. link 9150: http://www.bkauto.com/R_9150_Inside_...o_p/r-9150.htm Attached Images

08-31-2017, 07:39 PM	#30
roost3r @ElHefeZ28 Drives: 2015 White Z28 Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Mooresville NC Posts: 192	Thats who I stole the idea from

08-31-2017, 08:36 PM	#32
NVNO1 Drives: corvette Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Nevada Posts: 122	Thanks for the reply. That carbon frame looks sweet. Might have scoop one of those up

03-02-2019, 05:42 PM	#42
serviceguy Drives: 2014 Z/28 # 89, 69 Camaro, 2013 ZL1 Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Flint MI Posts: 669	Can anybody supply a photo of what the Schroth 4 point ASM II looks like connected to the BK Harness bar behind the seat at the top. I ordered / received my products from SUBE sports per the recommendation, however, having difficulty figuring out how the belt wraps/ connects to the harness bar and what it should look like. I have the quick connect clip ends per the recommendation, any photos would be greatly appreciated. Thank you