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Sven59 · 11-12-2014, 07:22 PM

I think the lt4 (650hp) with a 8spd auto and a diet would put it faster than both. But just to be sure take it up to 700 even and blow their doors off.

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96MrBass · 11-12-2014, 07:28 PM

Lol 650 and a small diet would be sweet and anything more might just be king of pony cars and not just good at one thing.

txferrari · 11-12-2014, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Busabob

If you plan on making more power start with tires. The OE Goodyear's are abysmal, won't hold 578 rwhp worth a damn. Can't wait until these things are toast so I can get some RE11's or Pilot Sports.

I'm with you. Just shows you how much I'm off on the Zl1. I bought my Z in Aug. Nice and hot, so the tires got nice and sticky. I thought the Goodyears were good tires. Whoa, now it's 40 degrees and these tires don't stick for nothing. I drove 60 miles today and I was still getting squirley. I'll def be looking for different tires when these go bad.

Sven59 · 11-12-2014, 08:28 PM

It should come stock with pss and drag radials optional.

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jessrayo · 11-12-2014, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by mylftft

Get the right size turbos & you'll love it! My car is very drivable & the power is linear!

The problem with my turbos is that they were never designed to run in just turbo mode, they were designed to run with a supercharger on the car also. They have huge housings and deliver tons of boost at high rpm, they are seamless if the supercharger is on the car to spool them up...... that was the original plan, but it did not pan out. No matter what we did you just could not push 22 pounds of boost through the supercharger coolant bricks. If the housings were redesigned and wastegates and springs were set-up to run turbo only it would have a lot broader and more liner power band. But no matter what you do to a turbo it does not have the low end torque below 3000 rpm that you get with a supercharger.

Rather than completely rebuilding my turbo system I plan on rebuilding the supercharger bricks and adding huge bypass ports, this will allow the car to run exactly like a supercharged car to say 3800 rpm and then it will transition to the turbos and bypass the supercharger on the top of the powerband. At least that is the theory. I'm still several months away from this... There are still a lot of little things to work out. My car is at ADM again.

Sven59 · 11-12-2014, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by jessrayo

The problem with my turbos is that they were never designed to run in just turbo mode, they were designed to run with a supercharger on the car also. They have huge housings and deliver tons of boost at high rpm, they are seamless if the supercharger is on the car to spool them up...... that was the original plan, but it did not pan out. No matter what we did you just could not push 22 pounds of boost through the supercharger coolant bricks. If the housings were redesigned and wastegates and springs were set-up to run turbo only it would have a lot broader and more liner power band. But no matter what you do to a turbo it does not have the low end torque below 3000 rpm that you get with a supercharger.

Rather than completely rebuilding my turbo system I plan on rebuilding the supercharger bricks and adding huge bypass ports, this will allow the car to run exactly like a supercharged car to say 3800 rpm and then it will transition to the turbos and bypass the supercharger on the top of the powerband. At least that is the theory. I'm still several months away from this... There are still a lot of little things to work out. My car is at ADM again.

You need to write a book!

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PonyKiller74 · 11-18-2014, 05:20 AM

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Originally Posted by SSmokinSS

Why is more Horsepower good?

96MrBass · 02-15-2015, 05:01 PM

Thought I'd revive this and see what happens since a few video's have surfaced with ZL1's and hellcats lol.

KaBoom1701 · 02-15-2015, 06:47 PM

Nothing really changed IMHO...

HooninZL1 · 02-15-2015, 08:42 PM

Too much money, too much sex, and too much horsepower. These are things that do NOT exist! Like unicorns and dragons. Something we all want to see but never will.

Sven59 · 02-15-2015, 08:45 PM

Nothing will change until the next series of reviews hopefully involving Randy Pobst and the same track and we will see some numbers and opinions worthwhile.

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JFWJR179 · 02-20-2015, 03:31 PM

Yes - 2016 ZL1 needs more HP
Similar to Dodge Hellcat 700 HP from factory

Twin screw supercharger and other improvements

96MrBass · 02-21-2015, 05:35 AM

I wouldn't think it would need quite that to compete with gt5 and hellcat.

scoticus.rex · 02-21-2015, 08:19 AM

What does "need" have to do with it???

11-12-2014, 07:22 PM	#71
Sven59 HAMMER PILOT Drives: 13 ZL1#182, 85 CJ7, 16 Silverado Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Tucson AZ Posts: 4,386	I think the lt4 (650hp) with a 8spd auto and a diet would put it faster than both. But just to be sure take it up to 700 even and blow their doors off. Via lightning from a large Hammer. __________________ "DO YOU WANT ME TO PUT THE HAMMER DOWN?"

11-12-2014, 07:28 PM	#72
96MrBass Drives: GM Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Marydel, DE Posts: 1,321	Lol 650 and a small diet would be sweet and anything more might just be king of pony cars and not just good at one thing. __________________ Roto- Fab Cai, SLP 1 3/4" headers, 3"X pipe, LM2 cat back, Comp Cam & AI Heads, SLP UP, RPM Tuned, GPI Intake, Vmax TB, ADM Air Scoop, 3.91 Gears, Gforce driveshaft, Braille 21#, Elite Catch Can, Pfadt Tie Rods, Diff Bushings and Trailing arms, Eibach spings & sways, BMR cradle bushings, Nt555r's.

11-12-2014, 08:28 PM	#74
Sven59 HAMMER PILOT Drives: 13 ZL1#182, 85 CJ7, 16 Silverado Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Tucson AZ Posts: 4,386	It should come stock with pss and drag radials optional. Via lightning from a large Hammer. __________________ "DO YOU WANT ME TO PUT THE HAMMER DOWN?"

02-15-2015, 05:01 PM	#78
96MrBass Drives: GM Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Marydel, DE Posts: 1,321	Thought I'd revive this and see what happens since a few video's have surfaced with ZL1's and hellcats lol. __________________ Roto- Fab Cai, SLP 1 3/4" headers, 3"X pipe, LM2 cat back, Comp Cam & AI Heads, SLP UP, RPM Tuned, GPI Intake, Vmax TB, ADM Air Scoop, 3.91 Gears, Gforce driveshaft, Braille 21#, Elite Catch Can, Pfadt Tie Rods, Diff Bushings and Trailing arms, Eibach spings & sways, BMR cradle bushings, Nt555r's.

02-15-2015, 06:47 PM	#79
KaBoom1701 KaBoom1701 Drives: 13' ZL1 Red M6 Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: I.E. SoCal (Yucaipa) Posts: 8,630	Nothing really changed IMHO... __________________ Mods: Roto-Fab Intake, WW Res. kit & Big Gulp Air Scoop, Elite Catch Can, ATI Super Damper & 18% OD Pulley, LF Idler pulley bracket, Metco CC breather, ID850 Injectors, Stainless Power Headers w/ ceramic coating, TR71X Spark Plugs, JMS Fuel Pump Booster, Bo White TB, Tuned by Ted @ Jannetty Racing, Ron Davis HX, D3 Reservoir, Pfadt 1" Springs, Moreno Camber Plates, ZL1 Addons Splitter guard washers, Tow Hook kit & rock guards, Hurst Shifter Billet Plus 6 Speed Short Shifter, ZL1 DRL lighting harness, ZL1 Recaro Seats.

02-15-2015, 08:42 PM	#80
HooninZL1 Drives: 2015 ZL1 hoonin machine!!! Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Utah Posts: 4	Too much money, too much sex, and too much horsepower. These are things that do NOT exist! Like unicorns and dragons. Something we all want to see but never will.

02-15-2015, 08:45 PM	#81
Sven59 HAMMER PILOT Drives: 13 ZL1#182, 85 CJ7, 16 Silverado Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Tucson AZ Posts: 4,386	Nothing will change until the next series of reviews hopefully involving Randy Pobst and the same track and we will see some numbers and opinions worthwhile. Via lightning from a large Hammer. __________________ "DO YOU WANT ME TO PUT THE HAMMER DOWN?" Last edited by Sven59; 02-16-2015 at 10:18 AM.

02-20-2015, 03:31 PM	#82
JFWJR179 Drives: 2022 Camaro ZL1 Convertible A10 Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Memphis, TN Posts: 382	Yes - 2016 ZL1 needs more HP Similar to Dodge Hellcat 700 HP from factory Twin screw supercharger and other improvements

02-21-2015, 05:35 AM	#83
96MrBass Drives: GM Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Marydel, DE Posts: 1,321	I wouldn't think it would need quite that to compete with gt5 and hellcat. __________________ Roto- Fab Cai, SLP 1 3/4" headers, 3"X pipe, LM2 cat back, Comp Cam & AI Heads, SLP UP, RPM Tuned, GPI Intake, Vmax TB, ADM Air Scoop, 3.91 Gears, Gforce driveshaft, Braille 21#, Elite Catch Can, Pfadt Tie Rods, Diff Bushings and Trailing arms, Eibach spings & sways, BMR cradle bushings, Nt555r's.

02-21-2015, 08:19 AM	#84
scoticus.rex LTC, USA Drives: Hobbes - 2013 Camaro 2SS RS M6 Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 419 View My Garage	What does "need" have to do with it??? __________________ _____________________________________ ~Rex Hobbes - 2013 Camaro 2SS RS M6