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Biergut · 11-01-2018, 10:53 AM

I am new here... that's my fault because when I purchased my Porsche last year I knew I should have purchased the Z28.

Well now I have some to my senses and just had post.

I've tracked cars going back to the very early 1990s and have been through a lot of cars for the track over the years (12)... exclusively Porsches, but for one Corvette and now know... I need a Z28. I am amazed at the prices for these unbelievable machines. What shocks me is the prejudice about these monsters... when I tell folks I'm losing the Cayman for a Z28 I can't tell you the strange looks I get... I love it.

I have the Jones for a Z so bad it's consuming way too much of my time -- I find myself watching the Chris Harris video over and over again... I need the Porsche gone first, but boy -- once that is gone -- I'll be in a Z28 so fast my wife will wonder just what the f*^k just happened! (she is also one of the Porsche snobs)

Anyway-- wanted to get acquainted with you guys, introduce myself and hope to be a member of the club soon. Wish me luck!

Biergut

johna · 11-01-2018, 11:25 AM

You won’t regret it.
I recently purchased my Z28. I sold my Porsche 987 Boxster spyder to do this. I have not tracked the z28 yet. but just the sound of the huge dry sump 7.0 liter puts a grin on my face way more than the Spyder...and the spyder was an excellent raw car. But the z28 is an amazing unique monster!

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MrRaZ28 · 11-01-2018, 12:50 PM

^ What John said. Still the best car I've ever driven, street and track. Over a year later, and I STILL go out into the garage to look at her.. 4 track days down this year, many.... MANY more to go.

Don't be afraid to travel for the right one.. it's worth the return trip!

DasBaldDog · 11-01-2018, 01:11 PM

I've owned late model fast cars, I've owned powerful (modded and unmodded) muscle cars.

Wasn't happy with any of them.

Told the better half that I wanted a modern muscle car, a new antique racecar. That day read and article on Jalopnik about how the Z's had gotten cheap and started my hunt.

It is exactly what I was looking for. It feels like a high performance restomod. It's a modern version of the old sports/muscle cars.

tylerio · 11-01-2018, 03:11 PM

In many ways it's a throwback. Driving it brings back the glory days of muscle cars in the late 60's.. Mine has about 35-40 track days on it, have had very few problems despite all the stress put on the car. It has 21K miles on odometer and here is the list of problems so far: leaky radiator drain cock, a TPMS sensor failure, and a leaky O-ring at the pumpkin.That's it!

Crashed it into the tire wall at Lime Rock last year, patched it up with duct tape and cable ties, drove it home, did another 4 track days before getting it to the body shop because the suspension was fine. $21 K in damage, but no suspension damage and no driver injury. Can't beat this car.

Biergut · 11-01-2018, 03:30 PM

Awesome! Love the war stories... and can't wait to add a few myself. Unfortunately, it does not appear to be a good time to sell a sportscar -- I've had zero bites on the Porsche - advertised everywhere. Had a dealer in CO offer me 27.5 for the Cayman... I'd take that if I had a local NJ, PA, NY dealer offer me the same. I do a quick search for local (NJ) cars each day -- keeping my fingers crossed.

Palutz · 11-01-2018, 05:56 PM

Biergut,

I was in your shoes up until Monday when I picked up my Z/28 and I must tell you not to give up if a Z is what you want. I used to watch every video on YouTube and imagine myself getting into the driver seat ... I finally did it. The permagrin is real, the car is faster than you think, and you will notice a lot of turned heads and thumbs up. I absolutely love this car and would recommend it to anyone that doesn’t see driving as a chore.

Good luck and keep us updated!

Racer56 · 11-01-2018, 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Biergut

I am new here... that's my fault because when I purchased my Porsche last year I knew I should have purchased the Z28.

Well now I have some to my senses and just had post.

I've tracked cars going back to the very early 1990s and have been through a lot of cars for the track over the years (12)... exclusively Porsches, but for one Corvette and now know... I need a Z28. I am amazed at the prices for these unbelievable machines. What shocks me is the prejudice about these monsters... when I tell folks I'm losing the Cayman for a Z28 I can't tell you the strange looks I get... I love it.

I have the Jones for a Z so bad it's consuming way too much of my time -- I find myself watching the Chris Harris video over and over again... I need the Porsche gone first, but boy -- once that is gone -- I'll be in a Z28 so fast my wife will wonder just what the f*^k just happened! (she is also one of the Porsche snobs)

Anyway-- wanted to get acquainted with you guys, introduce myself and hope to be a member of the club soon. Wish me luck!

Biergut

I currently own a 2015 Z-28 with extensive engine mods. I track it at Lime Rock, the Glen and Monticello Motor Club. I plan to hit the New Jersey tracks next season.

I also own a full-race Cayman S (my 2nd) which I also love. I would have a hard time choosing between the two if forced. One is an sledgehammer, the other a scalpel, but both very satisfying.

I started racing in SCCA in 1970 (Formula cars, IMSA Porsche). I am 71 and stopped racing two years ago but still do DE's and instruct. I have also owned 16 Porsche, five being race cars. I bought a new Z-28 in '69 and before that an Impala SS 409 and a Chevelle SS 396, so I have been through the full range of Porsche and Chevy's.

I had no interest in owning an American car since I got my first 911 in 1970, but when I saw the Z-28, I fell in love. Once the prices came down, I, along with a few friends, bought one.

The only other American cars I would possibly consider to Z are the Grand Sport Vette (with cam and headers) and the yet to be announced 6th Gen Z-28.

Racer56 · 11-01-2018, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by tylerio

In many ways it's a throwback. Driving it brings back the glory days of muscle cars in the late 60's.. Mine has about 35-40 track days on it, have had very few problems despite all the stress put on the car. It has 21K miles on odometer and here is the list of problems so far: leaky radiator drain cock, a TPMS sensor failure, and a leaky O-ring at the pumpkin.That's it!

Crashed it into the tire wall at Lime Rock last year, patched it up with duct tape and cable ties, drove it home, did another 4 track days before getting it to the body shop because the suspension was fine. $21 K in damage, but no suspension damage and no driver injury. Can't beat this car.

We have similar cars. Let's hook up at Lime Rock next year (open exhaust day only!)

_Chigga · 11-01-2018, 08:52 PM

if you guys are looking to buy now is a great time with winter coming up, lots of great deals poping up too!

rcandiloro · 11-01-2018, 11:39 PM

I went from a 2009 ZR1 to a Z/28 and have never looked back. I LOVED my ZR1, but always was drawn to the Z/28. It's not as fast, but in terms of pure driving enjoyment there is no comparison. The Z/28 is just a raw, visceral beast and I can't imagine another car that is as much fun to drive. The way it looks, the way it sounds, the way it makes power.....just pure analog perfection! You will not regret it!

John_C · 11-02-2018, 07:16 AM

Why not just get the latest and greatest?

A new ZL1 1LE?

j o n · 11-02-2018, 07:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John_C

Why not just get the latest and greatest?

A new ZL1 1LE?

50% more to obtain a ZL1 1LE vs a used Z/28

To the Cayman owners... I wonder how the large size increase to the Camaro platform feels coming from the little Cayman

Biergut · 11-02-2018, 08:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Racer56

I currently own a 2015 Z-28 with extensive engine mods. I track it at Lime Rock, the Glen and Monticello Motor Club. I plan to hit the New Jersey tracks next season.

I also own a full-race Cayman S (my 2nd) which I also love. I would have a hard time choosing between the two if forced. One is an sledgehammer, the other a scalpel, but both very satisfying.

I started racing in SCCA in 1970 (Formula cars, IMSA Porsche). I am 71 and stopped racing two years ago but still do DE's and instruct. I have also owned 16 Porsche, five being race cars. I bought a new Z-28 in '69 and before that an Impala SS 409 and a Chevelle SS 396, so I have been through the full range of Porsche and Chevy's.

I had no interest in owning an American car since I got my first 911 in 1970, but when I saw the Z-28, I fell in love. Once the prices came down, I, along with a few friends, bought one.

The only other American cars I would possibly consider to Z are the Grand Sport Vette (with cam and headers) and the yet to be announced 6th Gen Z-28.

We sound like similar stories for sure.

BTW - you won't love the NJ tracks... I've got thousands of laps on all of the tracks you've mentioned (sans Monticello) as well as plenty of time down in Millville and can attest that NJMP does not compare. But try them you must! You'll know what I mean after a weekend there.

My Cayman is a great sports car, but I own the 2.7, it's stock and it is just too slow. I just made a mistake in buying it. It hangs in better at the Glen where you can keep up pace, but it's ever so frustrating to drive at a place like Summit Point where you have to dig hard from T1 and coming out of the carousel. I miss some of my old race cars, but have no energy to deal with a strictly track car any longer.

I was taken with the Z28 since it was re-introduced and I watched all the videos with Pobst and Harris driving them. Now I just can't wait and need to dump the Porsche before I do something stupid like install a lift in my one car just to fit a Z!

11-01-2018, 10:53 AM	#1
Biergut Drives: '15 Z/28 Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: NJ Posts: 412	Going Out Of My Mind I am new here... that's my fault because when I purchased my Porsche last year I knew I should have purchased the Z28. Well now I have some to my senses and just had post. I've tracked cars going back to the very early 1990s and have been through a lot of cars for the track over the years (12)... exclusively Porsches, but for one Corvette and now know... I *need* a Z28. I am amazed at the prices for these unbelievable machines. What shocks me is the prejudice about these monsters... when I tell folks I'm losing the Cayman for a Z28 I can't tell you the strange looks I get... I love it. I have the Jones for a Z so bad it's consuming way too much of my time -- I find myself watching the Chris Harris video over and over again... I need the Porsche gone first, but boy -- once that is gone -- I'll be in a Z28 so fast my wife will wonder just what the f*^k just happened! (she is also one of the Porsche snobs) Anyway-- wanted to get acquainted with you guys, introduce myself and hope to be a member of the club soon. Wish me luck! Biergut

11-01-2018, 03:11 PM	#5
tylerio EXTREMZ Drives: 2015 Z/28 #891, 2012 2SS 45th Anni Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Southern Utah Posts: 131	In many ways it's a throwback. Driving it brings back the glory days of muscle cars in the late 60's.. Mine has about 35-40 track days on it, have had very few problems despite all the stress put on the car. It has 21K miles on odometer and here is the list of problems so far: leaky radiator drain cock, a TPMS sensor failure, and a leaky O-ring at the pumpkin.That's it! Crashed it into the tire wall at Lime Rock last year, patched it up with duct tape and cable ties, drove it home, did another 4 track days before getting it to the body shop because the suspension was fine. $21 K in damage, but no suspension damage and no driver injury. Can't beat this car. __________________ ARH long tube headers, no cats Comp Cams stage 2 custom grind Ported throttle body JPSS Oil cooler JPSS SAI plates JPSS Rear sway bar Forza Continenti exhaust controller ZL1 Add-ons wickerbill Brey-Krause Harness bar Schroth 4 pt. ASM harnesses Auto-blip

11-02-2018, 07:16 AM	#12
John_C LSx FTW!!! Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS RS Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: TN Posts: 767	Why not just get the latest and greatest? A new ZL1 1LE? __________________ 2010 2SS RS A6 781rwhp on E85 Stage 2 ProCharger D1X Circle D 3400 Triple Disc Kooks Jet Hot Headers Kooks Full 3in exhaust Trick Flow GenX 255's Polished PAC .660's & Ti-retainers TSP VVT 3.2 cam kit w/DoD Delete Smith Bro's Trunnion kit AEM X-Series OBDII Widebands FIC ID1300x Injectors GM ZL1 High Output Fuel Pump DSX Tuning Flex Sensor DSX Auxiliary Fuel System Tim King Stage 4 Max Effort CTSV 6L90 DSS 1 piece aluminum driveshaft JRE 6L80E / 6L90E Dipstick NGK Iridium IX spark plugs #7 heat range Mighty Mouse Camaro 5 Wild w/-12an and Billet Black HP Tuners VCM Suite

11-01-2018, 11:25 AM	#2
johna Drives: 2015 White Z28 Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: Chicago Posts: 113	You won’t regret it. I recently purchased my Z28. I sold my Porsche 987 Boxster spyder to do this. I have not tracked the z28 yet. but just the sound of the huge dry sump 7.0 liter puts a grin on my face way more than the Spyder...and the spyder was an excellent raw car. But the z28 is an amazing unique monster! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

11-01-2018, 12:50 PM	#3
MrRaZ28 @MrRaZ28 Drives: 2014 Z28 #80 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 590 View My Garage	^ What John said. Still the best car I've ever driven, street and track. Over a year later, and I STILL go out into the garage to look at her.. 4 track days down this year, many.... MANY more to go. Don't be afraid to travel for the right one.. it's worth the return trip!

11-01-2018, 01:11 PM	#4
DasBaldDog Drives: 2017 Focus RS Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Loganville, GA Posts: 177	I've owned late model fast cars, I've owned powerful (modded and unmodded) muscle cars. Wasn't happy with any of them. Told the better half that I wanted a modern muscle car, a new antique racecar. That day read and article on Jalopnik about how the Z's had gotten cheap and started my hunt. It is exactly what I was looking for. It feels like a high performance restomod. It's a modern version of the old sports/muscle cars.

11-01-2018, 03:30 PM	#6
Biergut Drives: '15 Z/28 Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: NJ Posts: 412	Awesome! Love the war stories... and can't wait to add a few myself. Unfortunately, it does not appear to be a good time to sell a sportscar -- I've had zero bites on the Porsche - advertised everywhere. Had a dealer in CO offer me 27.5 for the Cayman... I'd take that if I had a local NJ, PA, NY dealer offer me the same. I do a quick search for local (NJ) cars each day -- keeping my fingers crossed.

11-01-2018, 05:56 PM	#7
Palutz Banned Drives: 22 ZLE M6 Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Corpus Christi Posts: 601	Biergut, I was in your shoes up until Monday when I picked up my Z/28 and I must tell you not to give up if a Z is what you want. I used to watch every video on YouTube and imagine myself getting into the driver seat ... I finally did it. The permagrin is real, the car is faster than you think, and you will notice a lot of turned heads and thumbs up. I absolutely love this car and would recommend it to anyone that doesn’t see driving as a chore. Good luck and keep us updated!

11-01-2018, 08:52 PM	#10
_Chigga Drives: 2015 Z/28, #225 Red Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: Forney, Texas Posts: 136	if you guys are looking to buy now is a great time with winter coming up, lots of great deals poping up too!

11-01-2018, 11:39 PM	#11
rcandiloro Drives: 2018 ZLE Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: United States Posts: 454	I went from a 2009 ZR1 to a Z/28 and have never looked back. I LOVED my ZR1, but always was drawn to the Z/28. It's not as fast, but in terms of pure driving enjoyment there is no comparison. The Z/28 is just a raw, visceral beast and I can't imagine another car that is as much fun to drive. The way it looks, the way it sounds, the way it makes power.....just pure analog perfection! You will not regret it!