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kalimus · 01-17-2013, 10:24 PM

Truth

CHMSC · 01-17-2013, 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dtrimpi87

Guns dont kill people. Husbands that come home early do.

Or crazy arse women

and bad paternity tests

Dznts · 01-17-2013, 10:46 PM

Guns

KeepItShut · 01-17-2013, 10:50 PM

Oh ya! Guns!! They remind me of cars and women: wanna try them all!

Redemption · 01-18-2013, 12:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Camaro_Corvette

Now, talk about guns...

I have to really thank you and all the moderators for the leniency in this thread. It is obviously a difficult topic to discuss, not even bringing politics Into the mix.

Thank you for understanding.

Go gun rights.

J

GaBoy25 · 01-18-2013, 12:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redemption

I have to really thank you and all the moderators for the leniency in this thread. It is obviously a difficult topic to discuss, not even bringing politics Into the mix.

Thank you for understanding.

Go gun rights.

J

*TAG UR IT* · 01-18-2013, 01:51 AM

Go gun rights.

But let's keep it civil.

Intelligent conversations done in a respectful way can be VERY enjoyable.

Let's all try to BE respectful to each other. We know there's always going to be a few. But, let's not punish everyone due to a few. Ok? Help out folks. Please and thank you.

Mr Twisty · 01-18-2013, 03:47 AM

Finally! IFG Tanfoglio Bullseye in 10mm..... BIG pistol! but handles well!

Just for comparison, that's a full size 1911 on bottom

mntgome1 · 01-18-2013, 04:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dtrimpi87

Guns dont kill people. Husbands that come home early do.

lol

Mr Twisty · 01-18-2013, 04:20 AM

Interesting article on self defense ammo

http://ammo.ar15.com/project/Self_De..._FAQ/index.htm

CamaroSkooter · 01-18-2013, 08:01 AM

I'd be curious to see the same experiment above done with FMJ ammo, just to show how poor FMJ is for self-defense

blake-b · 01-18-2013, 08:14 AM

To help people understand the gelatin pic:
The yellow line is the permanent wound channel. This is actual physical damage to tissue. Everything between the yellow line and out to the green line is the temporary wound cavity. This is disruption. Think of a jiggling jello mold. When a bullet travels through soft tissue, the "harmonics" cause a temporary disruption of surrounding tissue. Some of this disruption can be permanent in the form of torn blood vessels. The temporary wound cavity can be thought of as the ripple effect.

Based on the picture, the .40 has the best permanent wound cavity. However, just like cars and dynos, different day, different gun and the results might look different.

I have been asked many times what is the best caliber for a pistol? There isn't one. If there were, all the police agencies would be using it. Shot placement is more important than the size of the bullet. Some would say a .500S&W is the ticket. If you are a large person who is comfortable shooting it, that may be the case. Read this:
http://www.policemag.com/channel/pat...8-25-2008.aspx
The bad guy took 17 hits from a .45 ACP before he was stopped. If I recall, the last three were to the head (shot placement!) and that is what stopped him.

A pistol is just to get you by until you can get to a rifle.

Sorry, my paint-fu isn't the best.

Mr Twisty · 01-18-2013, 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blake-b

To help people understand the gelatin pic:
The yellow line is the permanent wound channel. This is actual physical damage to tissue. Everything between the yellow line and out to the green line is the temporary wound cavity. This is disruption. Think of a jiggling jello mold. When a bullet travels through soft tissue, the "harmonics" cause a temporary disruption of surrounding tissue. Some of this disruption can be permanent in the form of torn blood vessels. The temporary wound cavity can be thought of as the ripple effect.

I have been asked many times what is the best caliber for a pistol? There isn't one. If there were, all the police agencies would be using it. Shot placement is more important than the size of the bullet. Some would say a .500S&W is the ticket. If you are a large person who is comfortable shooting it, that may be the case. Read this:
http://www.policemag.com/channel/pat...8-25-2008.aspx
The bad guy took 17 hits from a .45 ACP before he was stopped. If I recall, the last three were to the head (shot placement!) and that is what stopped him.

A pistol is just to get you by until you can get to a rifle.

Sorry, my paint-fu is weak.

That's a good clarification... a solid bullet will also cause secondary trauma, just not as much. Hollow point has definite advantage, but I don't want to be shot with either one.

I've always known 9mm was an effective SD caliber, I was surprised how close it is to the larger calibers.

blake-b · 01-18-2013, 08:33 AM

Slightly off topic, but I am taking some classes to finish my degree and it is centered on a research project and it just happens to be partially about CCW and schools/universities. Based upon recent discussion posts, it amazes how many sheeple are out there. I guess I had forgotten since I don't deal with regular people that often.

01-17-2013, 10:46 PM	#3825
Dznts Anabolic Connoisseur Drives: Sold - Blown Camaro 2SS/RS LS3 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 22,094	Guns __________________

01-18-2013, 03:47 AM	#3830
Mr Twisty Drives: the 2nd amendment home Join Date: May 2008 Location: OK Posts: 14,707	Finally! IFG Tanfoglio Bullseye in 10mm..... BIG pistol! but handles well! Just for comparison, that's a full size 1911 on bottom __________________ "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin Franklin Last edited by Mr Twisty; 01-18-2013 at 04:03 AM.

01-18-2013, 04:20 AM	#3832
Mr Twisty Drives: the 2nd amendment home Join Date: May 2008 Location: OK Posts: 14,707	Interesting article on self defense ammo http://ammo.ar15.com/project/Self_De..._FAQ/index.htm __________________ "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin Franklin

01-18-2013, 08:01 AM	#3833
CamaroSkooter Retarded One-Legged Owl Drives: 2010 Black Camaro 2SS Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 9,745	I'd be curious to see the same experiment above done with FMJ ammo, just to show how poor FMJ is for self-defense __________________ My VIN = 2G1FK1EJ9A9105017 Build Date: 04-23-2009 according to: http://www.compnine.com/vid.php

01-18-2013, 08:14 AM	#3834
blake-b Drives: 2009 ZR1 Join Date: May 2010 Location: KCMO Posts: 3,205	To help people understand the gelatin pic: The yellow line is the permanent wound channel. This is actual physical damage to tissue. Everything between the yellow line and out to the green line is the temporary wound cavity. This is disruption. Think of a jiggling jello mold. When a bullet travels through soft tissue, the "harmonics" cause a temporary disruption of surrounding tissue. Some of this disruption can be permanent in the form of torn blood vessels. The temporary wound cavity can be thought of as the ripple effect. Based on the picture, the .40 has the best permanent wound cavity. However, just like cars and dynos, different day, different gun and the results might look different. I have been asked many times what is the best caliber for a pistol? There isn't one. If there were, all the police agencies would be using it. Shot placement is more important than the size of the bullet. Some would say a .500S&W is the ticket. If you are a large person who is comfortable shooting it, that may be the case. Read this: http://www.policemag.com/channel/pat...8-25-2008.aspx The bad guy took 17 hits from a .45 ACP before he was stopped. If I recall, the last three were to the head (shot placement!) and that is what stopped him. A pistol is just to get you by until you can get to a rifle. Sorry, my paint-fu isn't the best. Attached Images Last edited by blake-b; 01-18-2013 at 08:25 AM.

01-17-2013, 10:24 PM	#3823
kalimus Drives: '14 Z51 3LT Stingray and '13 Cruze Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: US of A Posts: 1,346	Truth

01-17-2013, 10:50 PM	#3826
KeepItShut Drives: 2011 CGM 2LT/RS Join Date: May 2011 Location: Round Rock, TX Posts: 394	Oh ya! Guns!! They remind me of cars and women: wanna try them all!

01-18-2013, 01:51 AM	#3829
TAG UR IT www.Camaro5store.com Drives: 2014 ZL1 #705 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: SA, Texas Posts: 26,558 View My Garage	Go gun rights. But let's keep it civil. Intelligent conversations done in a respectful way can be VERY enjoyable. Let's all try to BE respectful to each other. We know there's always going to be a few. But, let's not punish everyone due to a few. Ok? Help out folks. Please and thank you.

01-18-2013, 08:33 AM	#3836
blake-b Drives: 2009 ZR1 Join Date: May 2010 Location: KCMO Posts: 3,205	Slightly off topic, but I am taking some classes to finish my degree and it is centered on a research project and it just happens to be partially about CCW and schools/universities. Based upon recent discussion posts, it amazes how many sheeple are out there. I guess I had forgotten since I don't deal with regular people that often.

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