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hammdo · 06-22-2018, 04:19 PM

I finally received my MagAssists from ZL1 Addons -- these are quality products! Since I'm racing more and popping these tires on an off (dailys to Racing), I wanted something that will make it easier -- these are the ticket:

High quality and damn nice!

https://zl1addons.com/collections/ma...eels-and-tires

I purchased the ones for a ZL1/Z28 (since I have the Z/28 hubs)

Got 2 so I can have one with me in the car and one @ home...

-Don

hammdo · 06-25-2018, 07:44 AM

I went ahead and wired up my ww pump, hope to have my startup tune soon. I’ll need to drive up to GPI most likely to get it dialed in - or log locally... depends on GPIs schedule...

-Don

hammdo · 06-25-2018, 08:23 PM

Well, no joy yet as GPI is still crazy busy so, I've been looking for some tuner help -- contacted a couple folks -- hope to just get a startup so I can get some logging in. Getting down to the wire and I sure don't want to take everything back off just to go to fest.

In hindsight, I should have done this after fest so I wouldn't be in a tight spot -- oh well, live and learn...

-Don

hammdo · 06-25-2018, 10:27 PM

Well, my friend Mark (ABADZL1) came though for me and helped me do the remote tuning! We used teamviewer and together, we were able to get the car up and going. The 5" really is an interesting item to tune for sure but, we got it close. Now, I can log and get it closer and then have GPI do the WOT tune for me before CFest...

Whew, thanks a million Mark!

-Don

ABADZL1 · 06-26-2018, 07:29 AM

Glad I could help Don!

hammdo · 06-26-2018, 08:38 AM

Huge help! BTW, I’m going to test the theory about the area difference and MAF adjustment to see if starting with that works!

Really appreciate you taking the time...

-Don

olblue75 · 06-26-2018, 02:07 PM

Hopefully John brings a bunch of these to Camarofest!!!

hammdo · 06-26-2018, 05:14 PM

Yep, they are the bees knees...

-Don

hammdo · 06-26-2018, 11:46 PM

Round 2 of tuning. Mark has been a big help. Did a 20 minute log and Mark has the charts setup so we can get the MAF dialed in. Very close, doing another run tomorrow and should be much closer... fun!

I did do some math and we found using the area difference of the 5" and 4" CAIs got us in striking distance from the start on the MAF setup so, I was lucky there...

Need to redo the exhaust on the header before the next logging session...

Very close for sure!

-Don

hammdo · 06-27-2018, 09:39 PM

Alright! Mark was able to do a 'Mobile WIFI TeamViewer' session with me. I setup my mobile wifi, hooked up my phone to the MyLink, setup the PC and Mark logged in. We were able to do a 35 minute log session -- while on the phone -- in near real-time, while I was driving!

We finally dialed this puppy in, did some WOT pulls, and she is just purring...

I'm going to do another log just to make sure we have things dialed in but, as of now, she's just right.

So the math part:

I'll just leave it as this:

Dave Steck (DSX) suggested I use 6800 for the ETC (I had it @ 6700):

For a 4" to 5" change, use 1.40 as the multiplier (I used 1.45) and we were very close with that.

If going from a 4.5" to 5" use 1.20 as the multiplier.

After I did all of that, Mark and I just logged and updated the MAF scaling as needed and then 'smoothed' the curve where necessary.

Here is the MAF curve now:

sexy curve for sure!

3 - ~30 minute log sessions and she's spot on! I learned a ton from Mark and really appreciate him taking his personal time to help me out. Great guy and very smart! Freakin' awesome! Tuning can be really fun when using new tools and tech ;o)

So, I just need to do a radiator flush/fill and fix some of the steam lines that are using the spring clamps. Exhaust is set and boy, she hooks with the Toyo's in this heat!

Now, Fest prep!

-Don

hammdo · 06-28-2018, 12:43 PM

For your viewing pleasure:

Running!

Lambda:

Woot! Running awesome...

Edit:

Just so you know, it’s 102° and she is running a temp of 190°, not bad!

-Don

ABADZL1 · 06-29-2018, 07:30 AM

Is the spacer by NW also or someone else?

hammdo · 06-29-2018, 10:57 AM

ICT - Amazon has it. 102mm to 92mm $22.99 shipped.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

My snout it ported and it fits up nice. I rotated it just to make sure of the fit. Tb has no issues with it. You do need longer bolts - 60 mm - the ones with the kit are too short and don’t fit the NW...

-Don

hammdo · 06-29-2018, 10:16 PM

Well, Mark (ABADZL1) and I finally finished up the little bit of changes in the tune, she is running super -- and especially in this heat (102° today). I'm going to do a couple of WOT tests again just to make sure but, for now, she is purring....

I will say (and so would Mark) tuning a 102mm NW is a big enough challenge but, doing that with a 5" CAI is a killer!

We were able to get things in line -- MAF curve is awesome, the BRA (no not a ladies item) Base Running Airflow is nailed, ran my 'stall' tests using the scanning tool, didn't stall, we tested for a 'hanging' idle, waited at stop lights and stop signs to make sure no surging -- its spot on.

Needless to say I would not have gotten anywhere near this without Mark. His guidance, knowledge, and willingness to work with me to get it 'near perfect' was a big help.

We both liked doing the 'real time' tuning -- I setup my HP laptop, used my mobile wi-fi, setup TeamViewer for Mark, and I would drive the car (in the heat) while Mark sat in his cool home looking over the scanner as we talked on the phone. I'd pull over, we'd adjust the tune, I'd upload it, reset the scanner, and drive it all over again. THIS worked amazingly and was very fast. Very cool to mix tech this way -- its a killer setup to do this kind of tuning real time on the streets. So much fun...

Thanks Mark! Can't wait to meet up with you and Sarah...

-Don

06-22-2018, 04:19 PM	#2087
hammdo 'It's an experiment' Drives: [COTW 2/09/15] '11 GPI LSA SC Z/LE Join Date: May 2014 Location: Dallas TX Posts: 8,694 View My Garage	I finally received my MagAssists from ZL1 Addons -- these are quality products! Since I'm racing more and popping these tires on an off (dailys to Racing), I wanted something that will make it easier -- these are the ticket: High quality and damn nice! https://zl1addons.com/collections/ma...eels-and-tires I purchased the ones for a ZL1/Z28 (since I have the Z/28 hubs) Got 2 so I can have one with me in the car and one @ home... -Don __________________ 747 RWHP 794 RWTQ "Horsepower sells cars, torque wins races." - Enzo Ferrari See My Build: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=385577 Last edited by hammdo; 06-22-2018 at 06:22 PM.

06-25-2018, 07:44 AM	#2088
hammdo 'It's an experiment' Drives: [COTW 2/09/15] '11 GPI LSA SC Z/LE Join Date: May 2014 Location: Dallas TX Posts: 8,694 View My Garage	I went ahead and wired up my ww pump, hope to have my startup tune soon. I’ll need to drive up to GPI most likely to get it dialed in - or log locally... depends on GPIs schedule... -Don __________________ 747 RWHP 794 RWTQ "Horsepower sells cars, torque wins races." - Enzo Ferrari See My Build: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=385577

06-25-2018, 08:23 PM	#2089
hammdo 'It's an experiment' Drives: [COTW 2/09/15] '11 GPI LSA SC Z/LE Join Date: May 2014 Location: Dallas TX Posts: 8,694 View My Garage	Well, no joy yet as GPI is still crazy busy so, I've been looking for some tuner help -- contacted a couple folks -- hope to just get a startup so I can get some logging in. Getting down to the wire and I sure don't want to take everything back off just to go to fest. In hindsight, I should have done this after fest so I wouldn't be in a tight spot -- oh well, live and learn... -Don __________________ 747 RWHP 794 RWTQ "Horsepower sells cars, torque wins races." - Enzo Ferrari See My Build: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=385577

06-25-2018, 10:27 PM	#2090
hammdo 'It's an experiment' Drives: [COTW 2/09/15] '11 GPI LSA SC Z/LE Join Date: May 2014 Location: Dallas TX Posts: 8,694 View My Garage	Well, my friend Mark (ABADZL1) came though for me and helped me do the remote tuning! We used teamviewer and together, we were able to get the car up and going. The 5" really is an interesting item to tune for sure but, we got it close. Now, I can log and get it closer and then have GPI do the WOT tune for me before CFest... Whew, thanks a million Mark! -Don __________________ 747 RWHP 794 RWTQ "Horsepower sells cars, torque wins races." - Enzo Ferrari See My Build: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=385577

06-26-2018, 07:29 AM	#2091
ABADZL1 ZL1 Pilot Drives: 2013 ZL1 Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: TN Posts: 1,670 View My Garage	Glad I could help Don! __________________ GP Tuning 2.5 Cam, RPS Carbon Twin Clutch, Ported Blower, Kook's Headers, Cold Air Inductions CAI, ID850's, 9.17 Lower, 2.5 Upper, JMS BAP, Pedders Front Radius Arm Inserts, Whiteline Subframe Inserts, Tuned by me with HP Tuners Idle Clip Link...........https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTL8S9eHwbs

06-26-2018, 08:38 AM	#2092
hammdo 'It's an experiment' Drives: [COTW 2/09/15] '11 GPI LSA SC Z/LE Join Date: May 2014 Location: Dallas TX Posts: 8,694 View My Garage	Huge help! BTW, I’m going to test the theory about the area difference and MAF adjustment to see if starting with that works! Really appreciate you taking the time... -Don __________________ 747 RWHP 794 RWTQ "Horsepower sells cars, torque wins races." - Enzo Ferrari See My Build: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=385577

06-26-2018, 02:07 PM	#2093
olblue75 Drives: 2010 2SS/RS Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Clarksville Tennesse. Posts: 6,064	Hopefully John brings a bunch of these to Camarofest!!! __________________ Orange Krush II 1LE Front sway bar, Splitter, shocks and struts, Z28 dual mode mufflers, Intake, UCA Bushings, and Toresen 3.91 Diff. 1 piece DSS Drive Shaft, ZL1/C7 Calipers, and 32mm JPSS Rear Bar. ASC race spec splitter and wicker. 6th Gen M017 Wheels. Stainless Works 1 7/8 LTs. DSE and PAFDT Suspension components.

06-26-2018, 05:14 PM	#2094
hammdo 'It's an experiment' Drives: [COTW 2/09/15] '11 GPI LSA SC Z/LE Join Date: May 2014 Location: Dallas TX Posts: 8,694 View My Garage	Yep, they are the bees knees... -Don __________________ 747 RWHP 794 RWTQ "Horsepower sells cars, torque wins races." - Enzo Ferrari See My Build: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=385577

06-26-2018, 11:46 PM	#2095
hammdo 'It's an experiment' Drives: [COTW 2/09/15] '11 GPI LSA SC Z/LE Join Date: May 2014 Location: Dallas TX Posts: 8,694 View My Garage	Round 2 of tuning. Mark has been a big help. Did a 20 minute log and Mark has the charts setup so we can get the MAF dialed in. Very close, doing another run tomorrow and should be much closer... fun! I did do some math and we found using the area difference of the 5" and 4" CAIs got us in striking distance from the start on the MAF setup so, I was lucky there... Need to redo the exhaust on the header before the next logging session... Very close for sure! -Don __________________ 747 RWHP 794 RWTQ "Horsepower sells cars, torque wins races." - Enzo Ferrari See My Build: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=385577

06-27-2018, 09:39 PM	#2096
hammdo 'It's an experiment' Drives: [COTW 2/09/15] '11 GPI LSA SC Z/LE Join Date: May 2014 Location: Dallas TX Posts: 8,694 View My Garage	Alright! Mark was able to do a 'Mobile WIFI TeamViewer' session with me. I setup my mobile wifi, hooked up my phone to the MyLink, setup the PC and Mark logged in. We were able to do a 35 minute log session -- while on the phone -- in near real-time, while I was driving! We finally dialed this puppy in, did some WOT pulls, and she is just purring... I'm going to do another log just to make sure we have things dialed in but, as of now, she's just right. So the math part: I'll just leave it as this: Dave Steck (DSX) suggested I use 6800 for the ETC (I had it @ 6700): For a 4" to 5" change, use 1.40 as the multiplier (I used 1.45) and we were very close with that. If going from a 4.5" to 5" use 1.20 as the multiplier. After I did all of that, Mark and I just logged and updated the MAF scaling as needed and then 'smoothed' the curve where necessary. Here is the MAF curve now: sexy curve for sure! 3 - ~30 minute log sessions and she's spot on! I learned a ton from Mark and really appreciate him taking his personal time to help me out. Great guy and very smart! Freakin' awesome! Tuning can be really fun when using new tools and tech ;o) So, I just need to do a radiator flush/fill and fix some of the steam lines that are using the spring clamps. Exhaust is set and boy, she hooks with the Toyo's in this heat! Now, Fest prep! -Don __________________ 747 RWHP 794 RWTQ "Horsepower sells cars, torque wins races." - Enzo Ferrari See My Build: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=385577 Last edited by hammdo; 06-28-2018 at 09:39 PM.

06-29-2018, 07:30 AM	#2098
ABADZL1 ZL1 Pilot Drives: 2013 ZL1 Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: TN Posts: 1,670 View My Garage	Is the spacer by NW also or someone else? __________________ GP Tuning 2.5 Cam, RPS Carbon Twin Clutch, Ported Blower, Kook's Headers, Cold Air Inductions CAI, ID850's, 9.17 Lower, 2.5 Upper, JMS BAP, Pedders Front Radius Arm Inserts, Whiteline Subframe Inserts, Tuned by me with HP Tuners Idle Clip Link...........https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTL8S9eHwbs

06-29-2018, 10:57 AM	#2099
hammdo 'It's an experiment' Drives: [COTW 2/09/15] '11 GPI LSA SC Z/LE Join Date: May 2014 Location: Dallas TX Posts: 8,694 View My Garage	ICT - Amazon has it. 102mm to 92mm $22.99 shipped. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1 My snout it ported and it fits up nice. I rotated it just to make sure of the fit. Tb has no issues with it. You do need longer bolts - 60 mm - the ones with the kit are too short and don’t fit the NW... -Don __________________ 747 RWHP 794 RWTQ "Horsepower sells cars, torque wins races." - Enzo Ferrari See My Build: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=385577 Last edited by hammdo; 06-29-2018 at 02:03 PM.

06-29-2018, 10:16 PM	#2100
hammdo 'It's an experiment' Drives: [COTW 2/09/15] '11 GPI LSA SC Z/LE Join Date: May 2014 Location: Dallas TX Posts: 8,694 View My Garage	Well, Mark (ABADZL1) and I finally finished up the little bit of changes in the tune, she is running super -- and especially in this heat (102° today). I'm going to do a couple of WOT tests again just to make sure but, for now, she is purring.... I will say (and so would Mark) tuning a 102mm NW is a big enough challenge but, doing that with a 5" CAI is a killer! We were able to get things in line -- MAF curve is awesome, the BRA (no not a ladies item) Base Running Airflow is nailed, ran my 'stall' tests using the scanning tool, didn't stall, we tested for a 'hanging' idle, waited at stop lights and stop signs to make sure no surging -- its spot on. Needless to say I would not have gotten anywhere near this without Mark. His guidance, knowledge, and willingness to work with me to get it 'near perfect' was a big help. We both liked doing the 'real time' tuning -- I setup my HP laptop, used my mobile wi-fi, setup TeamViewer for Mark, and I would drive the car (in the heat) while Mark sat in his cool home looking over the scanner as we talked on the phone. I'd pull over, we'd adjust the tune, I'd upload it, reset the scanner, and drive it all over again. THIS worked amazingly and was very fast. Very cool to mix tech this way -- its a killer setup to do this kind of tuning real time on the streets. So much fun... Thanks Mark! Can't wait to meet up with you and Sarah... -Don __________________ 747 RWHP 794 RWTQ "Horsepower sells cars, torque wins races." - Enzo Ferrari See My Build: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=385577 Last edited by hammdo; 06-29-2018 at 10:50 PM.