10-22-2009, 01:51 AM | #29 |
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In the end V8 users pay much more. The only real difference is the vibration that comes from a superior motor. And it only matters to those who know.
Great thread.
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10-22-2009, 02:13 AM | #30 |
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Because mods's add power By your logic, why mod any car?? It's only a few extra hp
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10-22-2009, 02:44 AM | #31 |
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Well, I guess unless you're doing forced induction, modding isn't really all about power.
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L99 tune 22 HP, 42 Ft.Lb. torque for $200 to $300, is great buy, some have shown tune plus headers adds only 4 HP, will be watching for Vararam results or any other CAI, but will they add over tune, CAI for $400 10HP, 10 torque, tune wins.
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1)If an added 120 HP from an engine upgrade (V6 to V8) gains only tenths of a second, 20HP gain will do almost nothing. (IE. DON'T BUY THESE THINGS FOR ADDED POWER, because it's trivial) 2)From what I'm really hearing is that unless you plan to add a major modification (which >98% WILL NOT) minor upgrades like CAI and headers are cosmetic mods only. 3) The weigh difference Change in the V6 vs V8 camaro is only 2.8% but the power difference is 28%. If the power to wt ratio idea held up, we should see a BIG performance difference because the weight change is trivial but power increase is huge!
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I'm confused, the quickest stock SS is in the 12s and so far it seems V6s are in the low to mid 14s. That's a lot of tenths.
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^lol +1
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This is a great thread you started, but the base premise is somewhat misleading. The data below is an "average" from multiple magazine articles, i.e. Car and Driver, Edmunds, etc. For example when Car and Driver tested both models here were the numbers: V-6 0-60 5.9 seconds 1/4 14.5 seconds at 99 mph V-8 0-60 4.6-4.8 seconds (Auto and Manual Combined 1/4 13.0/13.1 at 111/109 mph (again Auto and Manual Combined) The variance in the 1/4 mile is not tenths, it is 1.4/1.5 seconds and 10 mph and again in the 0-60 times it is a full second+. That is the 120 hp difference. Now using software such as Desktop Drag, DragSim here is the difference that some simple bolt ons/good power tune could be worth: (This would be similar to 1Camaro70's post #34 above for $200-$300) 2010 Camaro SS L99 Auto Stock: 400 hp, 410 lb-ft, 3900 lbs 0-60 5.2, 1/4 mile 13.21 @ 109.6 mph With Tune and/or simple /CAI-Exhaust Mods: 425 hp, 441 lb-ft, 3900 lbs 0-60 4.9, 1/4 mile 12.91 @ 112.6 mph These seem to line up pretty well with the "average" times being posted on the site. Overall increase: HP +25, TQ +31; 1/4 mile 3 tenths and 3 mph. No argument, just some numbers for everyone to think about. There is an appreciable difference in performance with simple bolt-ons. In the end, it's what each enthusiast wants to do to make it "their" Camaro. P.S. drtwo, I am envious. You have both a Camaro AND a VRod !! |
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