2 + 2 doesn't = 4? An original proof created by myself.

[Angrybird 12]

too much college + too much time = Stupid ideas

Now that adds up!!!

[Angrybird 12]

Originally Posted by Mindz

You wouldn't ever see them. The only way a person could see the headlights was if you hit them and they'd catch a very fast glimpse before the oxygen and blood drained from their brain.

According to a Engineer with a masters in Physics That I work with, the light would travel out at twice the speed of light... Because he says the speed of light is realative to the point it originates from. He even had a formula to prove it... I still don't believe it.. I said you would see the light behind you. or your headlights would explode because the light couldn't get out

[Mindz]

Ahhh. Like if you're pushing your arm forward as you shoot a bullet. The bullet goes faster from the inertia acceleration. something along those lines, right?

[aston70]

Actually Mass, length and time are all dependent on relative motion so as you approach the speed of light your body will shrink and time will slow down. So if you moved your hand in front of you, it would actually be behind you and you would thus shoot your self in the ass, but your butt would not hurt because the bullet would be too small to do any significant damage. Also, you can only approach the speed of light, you could never actually hit it because then time would stop and you would cease to exist and you would divide by zero which is neither a number nor a unit, and we all know what happens when you divide by zero... lol

[clm7214]

Originally Posted by Mindz

Ahhh. Like if you're pushing your arm forward as you shoot a bullet. The bullet goes faster from the inertia acceleration. something along those lines, right?

^^Somebody email mythbusters.

2+2=4 whether your talking about 2 objects or the theoretical quantity of 2. End of story.

As for the car traveling the speed of light the professor is correct, but it is all relative.

Example A: You are in the car traveling at (X) speed, turn on the headlights, and from your perspective the light is traveling exactly the speed of light no matter what speed you are going.

Example B: You are traveling toward earth at (X) speed and turn on the headlights. From earth the light would appear to be traveling at the speed of light + your speed (blue-shift). The opposite if you were traveling away from earth. From earth we would observe the speed of light minus your speed red-shift. This is how we can tell if stars and planets are traveling toward or away from us and at what speed.

I'm a little bored at work right now.

[The_Blur]

That's actually a really thoughtful argument. I like it.

[BitchinCamaro]

Everyone knows 2+2=5 (for extremely large values of 2) Duh!

[Angrybird 12]

Originally Posted by Mindz

Ahhh. Like if you're pushing your arm forward as you shoot a bullet. The bullet goes faster from the inertia acceleration. something along those lines, right?

In theory I would assume so, but since nobody has ever traveled at the speed of light, theory is all we have.

[Angrybird 12]

Dang you people have too much time on your hands... Get a Hobby... LOL

[clm7214]

Originally Posted by Skyman 08

In theory I would assume so, but since nobody has ever traveled at the speed of light, theory is all we have.

(Making myself sound more like a nerd)

No I have never gone the speed of light, but the "theory" is indeed fact.

Think of an ambulance approaching you at high speed with the siren on. From inside the ambulance the sound is normal. When it is coming at you you hear a high pitch, then as it passes you you hear a lower pitch. The sound waves are compressed infront of the ambulance then lengthened behind it.

If i fire a 9mm foreward, out the window of my truck, while traveling 55mph the bullet will travel its speed plus 55mph. (Thats my Los Angeles example)

[Angrybird 12]

Originally Posted by clm7214

(Making myself sound more like a nerd)

True, but it is indeed fact.

Think of an ambulance approaching you at high speed with the siren on. From inside the ambulance the sound is normal. When it is coming at you you hear a high pitch, then as it passes you you hear a lower pitch. The sound waves are compressed infront of the ambulance then lengthened behind it.

If i fire a 9mm foreward, out the window of my truck, while traveling 55mph the bullet will travel its speed plus 55mph. (Thats my Los Angeles example)

Not fact, fact is something you can prove by actual testing, you cannot test the Speed of light/headlight theory because no one can travel at that speed. so it remains a theory... Same as evolution, since we cannot see anything evolve or recreate it, it remains a theory.
Yes the other statements are fact because you can recreate it.

Main Entry: the·o·ry
Pronunciation: \ˈthē-ə-rē, ˈthir-ē\
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural the·o·ries
Etymology: Late Latin theoria, from Greek theōria, from theōrein
Date: 1592
1: the analysis of a set of facts in their relation to one another
2: abstract thought : speculation
3: the general or abstract principles of a body of fact, a science, or an art <music theory>
4 a: a belief, policy, or procedure proposed or followed as the basis of action <her method is based on the theory that all children want to learn> b: an ideal or hypothetical set of facts, principles, or circumstances —often used in the phrase in theory<in theory, we have always advocated freedom for all>
5: a plausible or scientifically acceptable general principle or body of principles offered to explain phenomena <the wave theory of light>
6 a: a hypothesis assumed for the sake of argument or investigation b: an unproved assumption : conjecture c: a body of theorems presenting a concise systematic view of a subject <theory of equations>

Main Entry: fact
Pronunciation: \ˈfakt\
Function: noun
Etymology: Latin factum, from neuter of factus, past participle of facere
Date: 15th century
1: a thing done: as aobsolete : feat b: crime <accessory after the fact> carchaic : action
2archaic : performance, doing
3: the quality of being actual : actuality <a question of fact hinges on evidence>
4 a: something that has actual existence <space exploration is now a fact> b: an actual occurrence <prove the fact of damage>
5: a piece of information presented as having objective reality

[Angrybird 12]

I am sorry that I have Hijacked your thread, Please return this to it's regular scheduled program 2+2=????

[clm7214]

Originally Posted by Skyman 08

I am sorry that I have Hijacked your thread, Please return this to it's regular scheduled program 2+2=????

True, Im well aware of the definition. I was just trying to get the point across that it wasnt abstract speculation, but rather that you could prove the theory though observation and repeatable experiments.

I think we went way too deep into this!!

[aston70]

theory != fact

Otherwise i'd be a fact that we all came from primordial soup. And we all know that Al Gore created everything.