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Old 06-28-2011, 12:44 PM   #99
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It is amazing how easily these cars can become monsters with a few mods. Crazy HP numbers for the track, then cruise on down to Applebee's for dinner. Versatility.
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Old 06-28-2011, 01:14 PM   #100
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...and best of all the insurance paid out minus salvage fees...


Sorry to break this to you 11.5 is the number you need a 4pt cage at... 10.99 is 5pt
Not what I am reading:
If you are quicker than 9.99 or 135 MPH, then a jacket and pants meeting SFI Spec3.2A/5 and gloves meeting SFI Spec3.3/1 are mandatory.

4.Roll Bar All cars running 11.49 or quicker must be equipped with a roll bar conforming to NHRA general regulations.

5.Roll Cage All cars running 10.99 or quicker must be equipped with a roll cage conforming to NHRA general regulations*.

*By NHRA rules, a roll cage is not required in a full bodied car until 9.99 or 135MPH. The 2009 NHRA rule book shows that a roll cage is required between 10.99 and 10.00 only at speeds of 135 or higher.
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Old 06-28-2011, 01:23 PM   #101
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Not what I am reading:
If you are quicker than 9.99 or 135 MPH, then a jacket and pants meeting SFI Spec3.2A/5 and gloves meeting SFI Spec3.3/1 are mandatory.

4.Roll Bar All cars running 11.49 or quicker must be equipped with a roll bar conforming to NHRA general regulations.

5.Roll Cage All cars running 10.99 or quicker must be equipped with a roll cage conforming to NHRA general regulations*.

*By NHRA rules, a roll cage is not required in a full bodied car until 9.99 or 135MPH. The 2009 NHRA rule book shows that a roll cage is required between 10.99 and 10.00 only at speeds of 135 or higher.
So maybe a 4 point is considered a Roll Bar and a 5 or 6 point is considered a Roll Cage.
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Old 06-28-2011, 01:33 PM   #102
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Any progress updates from Vengeance???
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Old 06-28-2011, 01:42 PM   #103
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If you go below 11.50 a cage is required at most tracks. As you go faster the number or "points" in the cage go up. Like 5 point, 8 point, 10 point whatever. It's all lined out in the rule books.

That video was a bit spooky. I wanted to run 11.40s and get booted for no roll cage.....that video made me take pause for sure. My PB is 11.79 at 122...and I spun shifting to 2nd on DRs. I'd hate to flip the car off the track at that speed.
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Old 06-28-2011, 01:43 PM   #104
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Any progress updates from Vengeance???
Not today. They were doing the cam yesterday.
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Old 06-28-2011, 02:57 PM   #105
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Not what I am reading:
If you are quicker than 9.99 or 135 MPH, then a jacket and pants meeting SFI Spec3.2A/5 and gloves meeting SFI Spec3.3/1 are mandatory.

4.Roll Bar All cars running 11.49 or quicker must be equipped with a roll bar conforming to NHRA general regulations.

5.Roll Cage All cars running 10.99 or quicker must be equipped with a roll cage conforming to NHRA general regulations*.

*By NHRA rules, a roll cage is not required in a full bodied car until 9.99 or 135MPH. The 2009 NHRA rule book shows that a roll cage is required between 10.99 and 10.00 only at speeds of 135 or higher.
I'm thinking this was pretty much what I was saying... If not I appologize and simply meant you need something when breaking 11.5 and something else when breaking 11.0.

Since IRPQ has a slow Camaro it won't be an issue...
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Old 06-28-2011, 03:05 PM   #106
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Old 06-28-2011, 03:19 PM   #107
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I'm thinking this was pretty much what I was saying... If not I appologize and simply meant you need something when breaking 11.5 and something else when breaking 11.0.

Since IRPQ has a slow Camaro it won't be an issue...
Well, what is throwing me off from your statement is the caveat at the bottom of my post:

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*By NHRA rules, a roll cage is not required in a full bodied car until 9.99 or 135MPH. The 2009 NHRA rule book shows that a roll cage is required between 10.99 and 10.00 only at speeds of 135 or higher.
NOTE: found this on an update for 2011 rules:
4.5 ROLL BAR

Roll bar mandatory in all cars running 11.00 (*7.00) to 11.99 (*7.49) and in convertibles running 11.00 (*7.00) to 13.99 (*8.59), and in dune-buggy type vehicles running 12.00 (*7.50) seconds and slower. Permitted in all cars. See General Regulations 4.10, 10.6.

4.6 ROLL CAGE

Roll cage mandatory in cars running 10.99 (*6.99) or quicker, or any car exceeding 135 mph (217.2 km/h). Full bodied cars, with unaltered firewall, floor and body (from firewall rearward, wheeltubs permitted), running between 10.00 (*6.40) and 10.99 (*6.99) roll bar permitted in place of roll cage. Cars running between 7.50 (*4.50) and 9.99 (*6.39) must have chassis inspected every three-years by the ASN and have a serialised sticker affixed to cage before participation. Must conform to specs for body style used, as listed in General Regulations 4.11, 10.6.

That should make it as clear as mud!
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Old 06-28-2011, 03:41 PM   #108
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I'm thinking this was pretty much what I was saying... If not I appologize and simply meant you need something when breaking 11.5 and something else when breaking 11.0.

Since IRPQ has a slow Camaro it won't be an issue...
My car is gonna be faaaaaast.
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Old 06-28-2011, 03:55 PM   #109
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Hypurone is correct. The confusion comes in on whether the car has had the firewall or floorpans altered (the distinction between a still stock body in most every way VS a lightened and modified full bodied door car).

We run in several different NHRA & IHRA classes at the divisional & National level so NHRA tech is a part of the racing we do.

Many tracks have stricter or looser rules as they choose for test & tune or local points events.

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make sure to make a vid so i can get a idea
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make sure to make a vid so i can get a idea
If there is a Camera witha fast frame rate to catch me.

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Cuhmaaaaoooonnnn!!!!!!!
UPDATE: My car is still at Vengeance.
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