11-14-2012, 08:43 PM | #1 |
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Complete LLT V6 Nitrous Outlet Installation Review
Hello All,
Some of you have been waiting for this and we apologize for the delay in getting it posted. Over the past several months, I have been working with Nitro Dave and his team at The Nitrous Outlet to create and finalize, what I think, is the premier Camaro LLT specific complete nitrous system on the market today. I wrote up the below review of the installation and hopefully you will find this useful in making your nitrous system choice for you LLT V6 Camaro. I'v purchased NOS systems from Dave for over six years now, and can attest to his customer service and satisfaction. One thing you really want to ensure is that you have someone you can call and support you AFTER your nitrous purchase and installation. Thanks. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Nitro Dave’s Nitrous Installation Overview for the 2010 on Camaro V6 LLT. This installation was professionally performed by BWoody Performance (www.bwoodyperformance.com). This kit is application specific for the 2010+ V6 LLT Camaro and the validation car presented here was a base 2011 Camaro V6 LS. This is our review of the product kit and installation only. High level Summary: Since this was our first time performing this particular kit on this platform, extra time was incurred to ensure proper installation doubling checking the connections during each step. Also, Dave is currently finalizing the instructions and will include complete plug-n-play watertight connectors on the production kit as some of our connections did require splicing. That said, still expect to spend a full day with this kit. Although one person can complete the install, a second "helper" will certainly make things easier. Routing the wiring from the trunk to the console and engine bay back to the console, takes some time. Take your time to do it right and you’ll end up with a professional “factory” looking install that you will be proud of and will be reliable for a long time. Our kit was complete less a remote bottle opener. That includes 10lb bottle, heater, mounts, adapter plate, pressure gauge, blow off valve, down tube (not installed), controller, TB plate with hardware, adapters, solenoids with purge, custom console switch panel, 20 feet of main line, fuel tap and line, jets for 50, 75, 100 and 125, wiring and hardware. This kit came with Brisk (cold) spark plugs. We choose not to install the Brisks and go with NGK LTR7IX-11 (with an initial .035 gap). You should talk directly with Dave about your setup and spark plug requirements. To begin, Mike at BWoody Performance lays everything out, ensures all the parts are included and begins the pre-work. Preps the bottle by installing the gauge and blow off valve. Next, the bottle heater is test fitted and postioned. Notice the quick connector on the heater leads. Next we clear out the trunk area and test fit the mounting plate. Dave has created a custom bracket that screw onto the existing cargo net studs. No drilling is required and makes for a quick install and removal of the bottle as needed. The bracket is made of aluminum; powder coated and weighs less than 5 lbs. We found this to be an extremely nice mount which offers flexibility that other kits simply do not provide. Since the battery is located in the trunk on the Camaro’s, power taps are very easy. Note that this Camaro installed a Braille 17 race battery in place of the stock 40lb+ one. We found that due to the bottle heater, the pre-drilled holes provided did not match. We drilled additional ones to mount the bottle to the bracket. This was an error on our part. Dave provides an adapter plate when using the 360 Bottle Heater that allows correct line up. This will be called out in the final release of the installation directions. Next we make the required electrical connections for the bottle heater. No issues. While one person begins the electrical connections, your helper can begin removing the interior driver’s seat and console side panels. The driver’s seat does not need to be removed, but for us bigger guys, it certainly helped for better access. The driver’s seat only has two (2) bolts that need to be removed and then slides out. Very quick to do. You can also see the custom switch console which includes all switches (Arm, Purge, Heater and Bottle Opener). The console side panels “pop” off easily, but again, take your time as to not break any of the tabs. Next Mike is beginning to route the wires from the trunk to the center console switch panel. We found no issues routing the wires and followed the positive battery wire up through the left (drivers) side and then across to the center console. You will need extra wire as you may want to route the wires differently. We have recommended to Dave to include additional wire with this kit. Routing up through the drivers side. And across to the center console (under the carpet). Next we began to look at the engine bay to determine the best route to run the wires to the interior console switch panel. We found coming through the right passenger side through the cabin filter area provided a good route. You will need to remove the cabin filter element and glove box. There are several options to go through the firewall including the drivers side. So review each side to determine what route you prefer. Here Mike routes the engine bay (Nitrous solenoid plate) wires to center console switch. Again, removing the passenger seat would make things a lot easier. Take your time and don’t force the wires through. Passenger side wire routing with the glove box removed. Here we tried to capture the route we took going through the cabin filter area. I think you can see the penetration access here. While the wire routing is continuing, your helper can get started mounting the solenoid plate. Here we begin to remove the CAI and throttle body. This Camaro also has an oil catch can which we were able to easily relocate. Here you can now see the plate installed. The solenoids cleared everything very well. No clearance issues and the kit comes with new (longer) TB bolts. This Camaro has a ported and powder coated intake manifold. Also note the purge line in the lower right hand corner. The purge line was installed and routed to expel out the front grill. You can see the route here. We covered the line with some black heat shrink wrap to hide it a bit more (and yes, the front bumper looks beat up. It has since been replaced with a brand new SS front bumper). Here you can see the complete purge line route. The line is flexible enough to route as needed. Next, we tapped the fuel line for the nitrous via the LLT’s service valve. Be sure to remove the needle and seat inside the valve. The kit provides a 90 degree adapter and all the connections. It was a little tight, but not an issue to get the connection tight. No leaks reported. Here is the final fuel and solenoid wiring complete. The nitrous main line from the trunk is last to route. We choose routing the main line outside and through the chassis. This was more for ease. The kit comes with 20 feet of main line. You can certainly run it inside as well. Here Mike completes the inside wiring. All wires were neatly wrapped with electrical tape which incurred some longer time, but provides additional protection to the wires themselves. Final wiring and connections to the console switch panel. Final engine bay installation. We covered the lines with some flex hose wrap to give the install a more “factory” look. Note that in this picture, the final production plate and solenoid mounting bracket (both black), have been installed. The main nitrous line from the bottle (in trunk), to this point, was routed under the car along the chassis and tie-wrapped according. You can certainly route the line inside the car under the carpeting. We choose the under car route for ease and if we ever had to remove the line, again, would be less of an effort. For added protection, you can wrap the line with some flex wrap/convoluted plastic. Final bottle with heater install. As you can see here, this is the cleanest nitrous bottle install for a 5-Gen Camaro on the market today. Final console installation with controller. Access is clean and simple. The controller is a simple 2-button progressive that allows all the usual parameters and settings. If you have any questions during the programming, just give Dave or Chris a call and they will walk you through it step by step. The controller does require a splice for both RPM and TB signals. The production kit will include quick connectors so no splicing will be required and instructions showing the exact plug in locations. Finally, we did not cover the spark plug install. As stated earlier, we went with NGK’s and set the gap to .035 to start with. We hope you found this review helpful in determining your nitrous goals. If you have any questions, give Dave or Chris a call at The Nitrous Outlet. Thanks.
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11-14-2012, 08:53 PM | #2 |
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Nice write up!
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11-14-2012, 09:11 PM | #3 |
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So.... Maybe the most important question.... How's the power!
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11-14-2012, 11:34 PM | #4 |
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One hell of a write up!
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11-15-2012, 07:31 AM | #5 |
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As you can expect, power is amazing and all rated to the wheels. Somthing else to remember when comparing systems.
Thanks!
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11-15-2012, 08:42 AM | #6 |
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Thanks for the write up and review. As always if you have any input about the system feel free to let us know!
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11-15-2012, 11:20 AM | #7 |
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11-21-2012, 09:21 PM | #8 |
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Why is the "pressure transducer" mounted to the "outlet" side of the bottle?
With the bottle closed, the pressure transducer would not be able to read the presure and keep the heating element on. Wouldn't it be safe to mount the pressure transducer to the "guage" outlet which has continous monitoring of pressure regardless if the bottle is opened or not? |
11-22-2012, 10:23 AM | #9 |
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Hard to beat the Nitrous Outlet. Excelent team there.
Now break some 1/4 mile records!! |
03-20-2013, 10:46 AM | #10 |
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Up top for a customer to see. :-)
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03-22-2013, 07:51 PM | #12 |
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Different strokes for different folks, easy Bee. LOL I had someone ask me to mount their's up at the solenoid block so they knew the solenoids were at correct pressure. I have multiple bottles (6 total ), some are only 2 pound bottles but I won't mention why. Cough cough, easier to hide cough cough. So I have mine in the line at the bottle. This is a great write up for a system install. Good job folks.
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07-17-2013, 11:37 AM | #13 |
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Mark, Checking in to see if you have been making any passes?
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07-19-2013, 09:28 AM | #14 |
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Also curious.
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