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Old 08-27-2014, 10:26 AM   #1
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Angry help

2012 car went into power reduced and than stalled and will not start. it has been at the dealer for 2 weeks. They told me that it is in the wiring for the clutch and they do not have the diagram for that car and it is not in anything from gm. they called tech support and they could not help them it has gone to the engineers at gm. anyone ever have this issue. The car only has 875 miles on it and this was the first time i took it out this year
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Old 08-27-2014, 10:32 AM   #2
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Why don't they just replace the harness in question?
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Old 08-27-2014, 10:45 AM   #3
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yea...If I was you I would haul the car to a different dealership's service department.
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Old 08-27-2014, 10:51 AM   #4
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second dealer and both have said the same thing.. no listing for the harness
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Old 08-27-2014, 11:10 AM   #5
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GM has a tech line to call for all dealerships....why aren't they using this??
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Old 08-27-2014, 11:16 AM   #6
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i was there when they called the tech line and they could not figure it out, the tech line sent it to the engineering dept. and they are working on it. The tech line says they have no info of the harness
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Old 08-27-2014, 11:37 AM   #7
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If it's only the harness why dont they just open it up and look for the problem.
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Old 08-27-2014, 12:26 PM   #8
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I just looked at the wiring diagram for the manual transmission and the the only wiring from the tranny to the engine control module is the clutch pedal position sensor, fluid temp sensor, vehicle speed sensor, skip shift sol. actuator and the reverse inhibit sol. actuator. I have a PDF of the schematic but can't figure out how to add it as an attachment.
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Old 08-27-2014, 12:27 PM   #9
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The other option is to have it lemon lawed out. Check you state regulations for that. Some states if they can't fix the problem in 30 days they have to lemon it out.
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Old 08-27-2014, 01:21 PM   #10
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I just looked at the wiring diagram for the manual transmission and the the only wiring from the tranny to the engine control module is the clutch pedal position sensor, fluid temp sensor, vehicle speed sensor, skip shift sol. actuator and the reverse inhibit sol. actuator. I have a PDF of the schematic but can't figure out how to add it as an attachment.
How interesting, you came up with a wiring diagram but his dealer can't.

Someone at the dealership is full of S%$T
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Old 08-27-2014, 02:04 PM   #11
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I got it off the same GM internal site that they use.
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Old 08-27-2014, 02:11 PM   #12
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I got it off the same GM internal site that they use.
I'm sure they have schematics and diagrams for everything that can be serviced, I also believe they can be found all over the internet. I've found many that I've used in developing some of my products.

They, at that dealership, are full of it!!
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Old 08-27-2014, 02:42 PM   #13
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They can access schematics for any GM vehicle built from the early 80's through current just by entering the VIN. I would find a better dealer.
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Old 08-27-2014, 02:45 PM   #14
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They can access schematics for any GM vehicle built from the early 80's through current just by entering the VIN. I would find a better dealer.
Accessing it and knowing how to read it are two different things. lol
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