2010 Camaro SS supercharger -- THE FIRST TVS2300 Magna Charger

[Andro]

Nice guys, can't wait to see the Dyno numbers

[Z_Rocks]

Originally Posted by Hennessey Performance

Our HPE550 upgrade will deliver at least 562 hp at the engine with our air induction, tune and exhaust mods. This should be at least 500 rw hp thru the factory 6-speed.

John Hennessey
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John, how come the LS3 in Corvette produces more power than in Camaro, considering same S/C setup? I've seen TVS1900 (which is smaller than TVS2300) on Corvette with LS3 with higher numbers.

I'm just curious as to why this setup on Camaro, produces less power.
Thanks!

[TLSTWIN]

Originally Posted by Z_Rocks

John, how come the LS3 in Corvette produces more power than in Camaro, considering same S/C setup? I've seen TVS1900 (which is smaller than TVS2300) on Corvette with LS3 with higher numbers.

I'm just curious as to why this setup on Camaro, produces less power.
Thanks!

There are several reasons, but it is easier to just say the only thing the LS3 and the LS9 share is the block. The rest is all better equipment, heads, rods, pistons, crank, everything is better in the LS9.

sorry, I am not john....

[davidj]

Originally Posted by TXInfernoSS

I havent seen it asked or mentioned but I have been known to miss things... does this maggie fit under our hoods without probs or mods?

It clears the hood without mods.

[Z_Rocks]

Originally Posted by TLSTWIN

There are several reasons, but it is easier to just say the only thing the LS3 and the LS9 share is the block. The rest is all better equipment, heads, rods, pistons, crank, everything is better in the LS9.

sorry, I am not john....

I was not referring to LS9 in ZR1, I was referring to LS3 in Coupe which is the same LS3 used in Camaro.

The dyno on the stock, are very similar, however when TVS was added, I see the Corvette shows a higher number, even with smaller blower (1900).
My only guess is that, the TVS2300 draws more power from the engine to produce power compared to a less drawing TVS1900. So, the end result, TVS2300 has a less final number. That's just my guess!

[davidj]

Originally Posted by Z_Rocks

I was not referring to LS9 in ZR1, I was referring to LS3 in Coupe which is the same LS3 used in Camaro.

The dyno on the stock, are very similar, however when TVS was added, I see the Corvette shows a higher number, even with smaller blower (1900).
My only guess is that, the TVS2300 draws more power from the engine to produce power compared to a less drawing TVS1900. So, the end result, TVS2300 has a less final number. That's just my guess!

It would be cool to see what a 1900 would do on a totally stock Camaro. So we can see a side by side comparison between the two. I understand the 2300 is good for more power later on. But for some I'm sure the extra 110hp is all they want. So the 2300 might be overkill, and you could save some hard earned money going with the 1900.

[tx tahoe z71]

That would be cool. Brian was saying earlier in this post though that the demand was overwhelmingly for the TVS2300, not the 1900... and you have to give the people what they want

[PatrickfromMD]

Originally Posted by tx tahoe z71

That would be cool. Brian was saying earlier in this post though that the demand was overwhelmingly for the TVS2300, not the 1900... and you have to give the people what they want

Does the 1900 require a different intake manifold? Perhaps that’s the reason they have not put much effort into a kit for this since they already have an intake for the TVS 2300. Maybe it requires fabricating a different drive system.
I for one am curious what the horsepower required to spin both to 8 psi , as well as the temp increase profiles between the two. I’d also love to see a PSI/RPM chart for both to better understand the characteristics of both.
In the long run, how much less would the 1900 cost? Perhaps the savings is not significant enough to even consider. BlownChevy, are you out there????

[davidj]

Originally Posted by PatrickfromMD

Does the 1900 require a different intake manifold? Perhaps that’s the reason they have not put much effort into a kit for this since they already have an intake for the TVS 2300. Maybe it requires fabricating a different drive system.
I for one am curious what the horsepower required to spin both to 8 psi , as well as the temp increase profiles between the two. I’d also love to see a PSI/RPM chart for both to better understand the characteristics of both.
In the long run, how much less would the 1900 cost? Perhaps the savings is not significant enough to even consider. BlownChevy, are you out there????

[Z_Rocks]

Originally Posted by davidj

It would be cool to see what a 1900 would do on a totally stock Camaro. So we can see a side by side comparison between the two. I understand the 2300 is good for more power later on. But for some I'm sure the extra 110hp is all they want. So the 2300 might be overkill, and you could save some hard earned money going with the 1900.

At some point, there were lots of debates on other forums about the differences between 1900 and 2300 and my final undrestanding was, 2300 is more suited for larger displacements with forged bottom and will require 8 or 10 rib, where as for stock LS3 or even LS7, the 1900 produces better results, since it's more efficient for this level and you can still run your 6-rib system compared to 2300 that draws more power and you'll see belt slipping in high RPMs with 6-rib.

Just some points to consider!

[JBsC6]

Originally Posted by THE EVIL TW1N

eh.. i know i'd want more.

thats why they make different and additional mods available..

My concern is that the car doesn't loose the ability to be a trouble free daily driver for 100K miles.. A lot of the peripherial drivetrain parts have a built in limit to the amount of stress they can withstand for 100K miles with x amount of hp and torque ....

The bulletproof nature of GM's product is too cool a feature to loose no matter what the hp increase is.

just one guys opinion.. and there are no wrong choices ...

[tx tahoe z71]

Originally Posted by JBsC6

thats why they make different and additional mods available..

My concern is that the car doesn't loose the ability to be a trouble free daily driver for 100K miles.. A lot of the peripherial drivetrain parts have a built in limit to the amount of stress they can withstand for 100K miles with x amount of hp and torque ....

The bulletproof nature of GM's product is too cool a feature to loose no matter what the hp increase is.

just one guys opinion.. and there are no wrong choices ...

So are you saying you would not supercharge your Camaro?

[davidj]

Originally Posted by Z_Rocks

At some point, there were lots of debates on other forums about the differences between 1900 and 2300 and my final undrestanding was, 2300 is more suited for larger displacements with forged bottom and will require 8 or 10 rib, where as for stock LS3 or even LS7, the 1900 produces better results, since it's more efficient for this level and you can still run your 6-rib system compared to 2300 that draws more power and you'll see belt slipping in high RPMs with 6-rib.

Just some points to consider!

I noticed in the GMPP catalog that the LSA makes 556hp and uses a 1900 sized S/C. I think that this is getting close to the cast pistons max hp range for 100kmi reliability. Obviously it can make a whole lot more hp but reliability starts going down as well.

[rgrizzard]

Originally Posted by Z_Rocks

At some point, there were lots of debates on other forums about the differences between 1900 and 2300 and my final undrestanding was, 2300 is more suited for larger displacements with forged bottom and will require 8 or 10 rib, where as for stock LS3 or even LS7, the 1900 produces better results, since it's more efficient for this level and you can still run your 6-rib system compared to 2300 that draws more power and you'll see belt slipping in high RPMs with 6-rib.

Just some points to consider!

From Magnusson-
The dyno confirmed what Jerry has been stating for years – “Run the smallest supercharger that will provide your target boost level. It will be more responsive (make boost sooner) and will require less horsepower to drive.”

Straight from the man himself.