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Old 05-13-2009, 12:27 PM   #393
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We where told at Indy that they had tested the drive-train at 700 + and had no issues? There are a few other members that were witness to this conversation…
Yep. I was there and so were quite a few others. Al said it in the Q&A session. They said they tested it up to 700hp w/ no problem at all. Now, sustained 700hp runs and getting on is seriously over the course of a few years.....sure, there might be a problem (as with any other drivetrain). But, for all intensive purposes, you shouldn't have any issues.

Don't worry...the drivetrain can handle a blower putting out this power.
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Old 05-13-2009, 01:36 PM   #394
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Yep. I was there and so were quite a few others. Al said it in the Q&A session. They said they tested it up to 700hp w/ no problem at all. Now, sustained 700hp runs and getting on is seriously over the course of a few years.....sure, there might be a problem (as with any other drivetrain). But, for all intensive purposes, you shouldn't have any issues.

Don't worry...the drivetrain can handle a blower putting out this power.
That is so legit
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Old 05-13-2009, 01:45 PM   #395
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We where told at Indy that they had tested the drive-train at 700 + and had no issues? There are a few other members that were witness to this conversation…
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Yep. I was there and so were quite a few others. Al said it in the Q&A session. They said they tested it up to 700hp w/ no problem at all. Now, sustained 700hp runs and getting on is seriously over the course of a few years.....sure, there might be a problem (as with any other drivetrain). But, for all intensive purposes, you shouldn't have any issues.

Don't worry...the drivetrain can handle a blower putting out this power.
That's really comforting to know. Can't wait to see some numbers. For those planning to stay with the 6.2L motor, I still can't see why you'd choose the 2300 over the 1900. The C6 guys seem to make more power with the 1900 than this Camaro with the 2300.
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Old 05-13-2009, 01:46 PM   #396
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That's a lot of belt running all that stuff.
Chris, have you looked at Techo belt system? Real nice. Go take a look. It reduces a lot stress on the other components and you will get like a stand alone 8-rib just for the blower. There is one video that the chief designer shows the 8-rib. (not trying to hijack this thread).
The belt and FEAD are more than capable of carrying the load of the supercharger. We have been doing this for 40 years, 10 of them on the LS engines.
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Old 05-13-2009, 01:59 PM   #397
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Yep. I was there and so were quite a few others. Al said it in the Q&A session. They said they tested it up to 700hp w/ no problem at all. Now, sustained 700hp runs and getting on is seriously over the course of a few years.....sure, there might be a problem (as with any other drivetrain). But, for all intensive purposes, you shouldn't have any issues.

Don't worry...the drivetrain can handle a blower putting out this power.
TAG, you think the rear end is that strong? I feel the IRS is so fragile, LOL.

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Old 05-13-2009, 02:03 PM   #398
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The belt and FEAD are more than capable of carrying the load of the supercharger. We have been doing this for 40 years, 10 of them on the LS engines.
Did I miss preliminary/final tuning numbers somewhere? I know you mentioned a car was going back to Hen' or something along those lines but was under the impression you guys were testing another one. I must've been mistaken...
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Old 05-13-2009, 02:17 PM   #399
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TAG, you think the rear end is that strong? I feel the IRS is so fragile, LOL.

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The 03 Cobra's are that strong, I would assume Chevy would make them just as strong. I probably wouldn't run slicks though. What I would worry about is wheel hop showing up at those higher hp levels.
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Please correct me if I'm wrong (it wouldn't be the first time, nor will it be the last) but those Cobras IRS's were bolt-in affairs, weren't they? I mean, the made a subframe that would adapt to the SRA axle mounts that would hang IRS components to, didn't they? I think that there's a chance that the IRS in the Camaro would be able to handle more power by virtue of being designed as an IRS car, unlike the Cobra. Again, I'm basing these statements off of my prior understanding of those models and encourage any insight

I'm with you on the slicks though. I might consider some ET Street Radials, but that's about it. It's not like they wouldn't be good enough, LOL.
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Old 05-13-2009, 02:34 PM   #401
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Please correct me if I'm wrong (it wouldn't be the first time, nor will it be the last) but those Cobras IRS's were bolt-in affairs, weren't they? I mean, the made a subframe that would adapt to the SRA axle mounts that would hang IRS components to, didn't they? I think that there's a chance that the IRS in the Camaro would be able to handle more power by virtue of being designed as an IRS car, unlike the Cobra. Again, I'm basing these statements off of my prior understanding of those models and encourage any insight

I'm with you on the slicks though. I might consider some ET Street Radials, but that's about it. It's not like they wouldn't be good enough, LOL.
I believe you are correct. The 03/04 cobra chasis was built for a Solid Axel. The IRS was adapted to those cars. My 04 was putting down 509rwhp / 520rwtq and the IRS was holding up find. Some had 600rwhp and it was holding up fine.

I for one think we will be fine .. however, it will get interesting with some very sticky tires to see how the halfshafts hold up. Another item that I bought for my 04 cobra was what they called an IRS Brace, it would re-inforce the pumpkin as they were known to get nasty cracks .. Hopefully the GM IRS doesn't have this problem.

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The belt and FEAD are more than capable of carrying the load of the supercharger. We have been doing this for 40 years, 10 of them on the LS engines.
Brian, I'm sure your above statement is music to many ears.
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I believe you are correct. The 03/04 cobra chasis was built for a Solid Axel. The IRS was adapted to those cars. My 04 was putting down 509rwhp / 520rwtq and the IRS was holding up find. Some had 600rwhp and it was holding up fine.

I for one think we will be fine .. however, it will get interesting with some very sticky tires to see how the halfshafts hold up. Anothing item that I bought for my 04 cobra was what they called an IRS Brace, it would re-inforce the pumpkin as they were known to get nasty cracks .. Hopefully the GM IRS doesn't have this problem.

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I see; cool. Look at how many early GTOs and CTS-Vs were munching rears because of wheelhop and such. I know that GTOs benefited greatly from the bushing kits from the likes of BMR and such. I think the staggerred shafts are going to help with the hop too, so I think we're going to be alright. I do recall 'Vettes getting those braces too and think they couldn't hurt us either
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I see; cool. Look at how many early GTOs and CTS-Vs were munching rears because of wheelhop and such. I know that GTOs benefited greatly from the bushing kits from the likes of BMR and such. I think the staggerred shafts are going to help with the hop too, so I think we're going to be alright. I do recall 'Vettes getting those braces too and think they couldn't hurt us either
Well, for the 03/04 Cobra's, adding a brace on the pumpkin (~$120 if I remember correctly) pretty much made the pumpkin bulletproof (zero failures). Otherwise, it is not uncommon to crack open the cover because of wheel hop or warp it to where it has nasty leaks.
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Well, for the 03/04 Cobra's, adding a brace on the pumpkin (~$120 if I remember correctly) pretty much made the pumpkin bulletproof (zero failures). Otherwise, it is not uncommon to crack open the cover because of wheel hop or warp it to where it has nasty leaks.
AH! Well - I'm sure someone will come out with a kit for us. I'll definately be looking at that
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AHH, im sick of this, i just want some dyno numbers. haha
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