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race24x · 05-07-2018, 09:33 PM

OK everyone boost is working better now or at least as described. Now for first impressions. I bought mine in a special deal and got a special deal. I wish I had bought it from Jannetty Racing as they have been very good to work with. The original kit was advertised at 600 HP engine HP. I have not put it on the dyno yet so I dont know where I actually will be when this is all done. However before tuning it was recommneded that I upgrade to the JRE FPCM asnfd ZL1 fuel pump that didnt come in the kit. Also Ted had mentioned that what I was experiencing (a narrow power range from about 5000 to 6500 wasnt the first he had heard of it. He recommended the smaller pulley and a bigger set of injectors. This should move the power down 1000 RPMs and help with the fact that I dont rev my motor to 6500 all of the time to pass someone. I am going to dyno as is and then put the smaller pulley and bigger injectors in and report what I think then. The problem with the power band being so narrow is that you dont get that kick in the ass feeling when the boost comes in. You are already revving the motor to 5000 and you dont get that big boost feeling because its already in its power. I am sure it is 600 HP or I believe 525 at the rear wheels, but noit only will the smaller pulley make more HP which to be honest 525 RWHP was my goal it should make it more user friendly HP. When I pass a car I will downshift a gear I would like to feel the boost then. So that is my first impression. Let me know if you have any questions on this build. Given everything I know now, I would start with the 75mm pulley and the 1000 injectors and skip the smaller one all together.

Camaro Dude · 05-13-2018, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by race24x

OK everyone boost is working better now or at least as described. Now for first impressions. I bought mine in a special deal and got a special deal. I wish I had bought it from Jannetty Racing as they have been very good to work with. The original kit was advertised at 600 HP engine HP. I have not put it on the dyno yet so I dont know where I actually will be when this is all done. However before tuning it was recommneded that I upgrade to the JRE FPCM asnfd ZL1 fuel pump that didnt come in the kit. Also Ted had mentioned that what I was experiencing (a narrow power range from about 5000 to 6500 wasnt the first he had heard of it. He recommended the smaller pulley and a bigger set of injectors. This should move the power down 1000 RPMs and help with the fact that I dont rev my motor to 6500 all of the time to pass someone. I am going to dyno as is and then put the smaller pulley and bigger injectors in and report what I think then. The problem with the power band being so narrow is that you dont get that kick in the ass feeling when the boost comes in. You are already revving the motor to 5000 and you dont get that big boost feeling because its already in its power. I am sure it is 600 HP or I believe 525 at the rear wheels, but noit only will the smaller pulley make more HP which to be honest 525 RWHP was my goal it should make it more user friendly HP. When I pass a car I will downshift a gear I would like to feel the boost then. So that is my first impression. Let me know if you have any questions on this build. Given everything I know now, I would start with the 75mm pulley and the 1000 injectors and skip the smaller one all together.

Is it just me, or does this post screem,

"I wish I had a PD?"

lol Just sayin' man ; )

race24x · 05-14-2018, 12:05 PM

What is a PD? In doing some reading I am seeing others for instance a guy with an EForce with a similar report of feeling from it. I guess I was expecting more from 600 HP. I will try the smaller pulley and see what that gets me and report back. Without getting into a Cam and Headers and free flowing cats I wonder what most kits produce?

eLeSthree · 05-14-2018, 12:28 PM

positive displacement, roots-type, top mount. maggies, e force, Kenny bell, ect.

Their boost hits instant and stays on the whole rpm range.

I opted to skip the smaller pulley options (105m, 103mm) on my ESS Tuning kit, and went straight to the 95mm. Im glad i did.

Not only does it create a higher peak of boost at the top end, but since you are spinning the blower faster you get more boost lower as well.

Pulley down, and if you still dont like it, sell it.

Does anyone know the max CFM the Kraftwerks blower makes?

EDIT; as a reference, the Vortech V3 Si i have makes 1150cfm. I think the YSi-B makes 1950cfm.

Silver14 · 05-14-2018, 12:39 PM

http://www.rotrex.com/Home/Products/...-Superchargers

C38-91 is listed at .63kg/s, I think that's about 1090 cfm?

eLeSthree · 05-14-2018, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Silver14

http://www.rotrex.com/Home/Products/...-Superchargers

C38-91 is listed at .63kg/s, I think that's about 1090 cfm?

Thanks, yea their best unit maxes out at 1095. I would contact your vendor, have them calculate which pulley you need to max it out without over spinning it and killing warranty, then go tune it. And that is only because you already have it installed.

Honestly, if i knew you, I would have steered you towards one of many other great options available. Not to be disrespectful, but when they advertise this, it kinda makes you wonder what exactly they were originally designed for...

"The C38 is also ideal for the supply of clean pressurized air for other applications such as industrial systems, fuel cell power plants etc."

760bowtie · 05-14-2018, 01:06 PM

I have mine set up with the 75mm pulley at 6800 redline. That’s about as close to being maxed out as you can get

race24x · 05-14-2018, 08:27 PM

760 What injectors are you running? Do you have headers? Did you do a cam? I would like to see 600 RWHP on mine and not void my warranty on it.

760bowtie · 05-14-2018, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by race24x

760 What injectors are you running? Do you have headers? Did you do a cam? I would like to see 600 RWHP on mine and not void my warranty on it.

1000cc injectors, long tube headers, NA cam, e85.

race24x · 08-04-2020, 08:19 PM

I sold my baby last week. I got pretty good money for it and now I am looking for a 6th Gen ZL1 to build. This car was fun and after going to a 70mm pulley and E85 she put down 640 rwhp which really feels nice. I found in order to go any further I need a better clutch a bigger rear differential and starting with something with those parts seems a better deal. I will miss Kate though.

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Athletics101 · 08-05-2020, 12:24 AM

Even tho the update was 2 years later, at least you finished the thread.

go_go_gadget88 · 08-06-2020, 11:19 AM

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Even tho the update was 2 years later, at least you finished the thread.

Lord knows I love me some closure!

05-14-2018, 12:28 PM	#32
eLeSthree Drives: 2011 Camaro SS 6sp Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: Drivers Seat Posts: 1,904	positive displacement, roots-type, top mount. maggies, e force, Kenny bell, ect. Their boost hits instant and stays on the whole rpm range. I opted to skip the smaller pulley options (105m, 103mm) on my ESS Tuning kit, and went straight to the 95mm. Im glad i did. Not only does it create a higher peak of boost at the top end, but since you are spinning the blower faster you get more boost lower as well. Pulley down, and if you still dont like it, sell it. Does anyone know the max CFM the Kraftwerks blower makes? EDIT; as a reference, the Vortech V3 Si i have makes 1150cfm. I think the YSi-B makes 1950cfm. __________________ 2011 Camaro SS---SOLD TMS Dart 427 FED M311s, ESS Tuning G4 Blower, DSX Triple FP Assembly, DSX FF, FIC1300, Mcleod RXT 1200HD, Edlebrock Pro Flo XT 1158whp 1017wtq. 2010 CTS-V A6 - "Stock" SOLD 630whp 658wtq 2024 F-150 RCSB 5.0 4x4 waiting for tunes...

05-14-2018, 01:06 PM	#35
760bowtie Drives: 2014 1SS/RS, 2018 Silverado CC Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Oceanside, CA Posts: 1,487	I have mine set up with the 75mm pulley at 6800 redline. That’s about as close to being maxed out as you can get __________________ AGP 57/57 turbos and Dual Pump System, NA Cam, McLeod RXT clutch, MGW shifter, ZL1 Rear End, BMR Trailing Arms/Toe Rods, Pegasus Solid Cradle Bushings 10.7 @140mph M6

08-05-2020, 12:24 AM	#40
Athletics101 Drives: 5th Gen L99 Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Lake Havasu City Posts: 244	Even tho the update was 2 years later, at least you finished the thread. __________________ LSA conversion 2.5 upper 10% lower, L99 converted to LS3. TSP 229/244 cam, TSP LS3 ported and milled heads milled .015,Kooks LT’s no cats, Roto Fab, Borla arak cat back. 3200 stall,Forgestar F14 18’s and drag radials, pedders coil overs, BMR trailing arms & adjustable toe rods, mildly stripped Interior 685/613 on E 610/571 on 91

05-07-2018, 09:33 PM	#29
race24x Drives: 80 Z28 - 93 Z28 - 14 Camaro SS-RS Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Fayette Maine Posts: 387	OK everyone boost is working better now or at least as described. Now for first impressions. I bought mine in a special deal and got a special deal. I wish I had bought it from Jannetty Racing as they have been very good to work with. The original kit was advertised at 600 HP engine HP. I have not put it on the dyno yet so I dont know where I actually will be when this is all done. However before tuning it was recommneded that I upgrade to the JRE FPCM asnfd ZL1 fuel pump that didnt come in the kit. Also Ted had mentioned that what I was experiencing (a narrow power range from about 5000 to 6500 wasnt the first he had heard of it. He recommended the smaller pulley and a bigger set of injectors. This should move the power down 1000 RPMs and help with the fact that I dont rev my motor to 6500 all of the time to pass someone. I am going to dyno as is and then put the smaller pulley and bigger injectors in and report what I think then. The problem with the power band being so narrow is that you dont get that kick in the ass feeling when the boost comes in. You are already revving the motor to 5000 and you dont get that big boost feeling because its already in its power. I am sure it is 600 HP or I believe 525 at the rear wheels, but noit only will the smaller pulley make more HP which to be honest 525 RWHP was my goal it should make it more user friendly HP. When I pass a car I will downshift a gear I would like to feel the boost then. So that is my first impression. Let me know if you have any questions on this build. Given everything I know now, I would start with the 75mm pulley and the 1000 injectors and skip the smaller one all together.

05-14-2018, 12:05 PM	#31
race24x Drives: 80 Z28 - 93 Z28 - 14 Camaro SS-RS Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Fayette Maine Posts: 387	What is a PD? In doing some reading I am seeing others for instance a guy with an EForce with a similar report of feeling from it. I guess I was expecting more from 600 HP. I will try the smaller pulley and see what that gets me and report back. Without getting into a Cam and Headers and free flowing cats I wonder what most kits produce?

05-14-2018, 12:39 PM	#33
Silver14 Drives: 2014 SIM 2SS Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 925	http://www.rotrex.com/Home/Products/...-Superchargers C38-91 is listed at .63kg/s, I think that's about 1090 cfm?

05-14-2018, 08:27 PM	#36
race24x Drives: 80 Z28 - 93 Z28 - 14 Camaro SS-RS Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Fayette Maine Posts: 387	760 What injectors are you running? Do you have headers? Did you do a cam? I would like to see 600 RWHP on mine and not void my warranty on it.

08-04-2020, 08:19 PM	#38
race24x Drives: 80 Z28 - 93 Z28 - 14 Camaro SS-RS Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Fayette Maine Posts: 387	I sold my baby last week. I got pretty good money for it and now I am looking for a 6th Gen ZL1 to build. This car was fun and after going to a 70mm pulley and E85 she put down 640 rwhp which really feels nice. I found in order to go any further I need a better clutch a bigger rear differential and starting with something with those parts seems a better deal. I will miss Kate though.

08-04-2020, 08:22 PM	#39
race24x Drives: 80 Z28 - 93 Z28 - 14 Camaro SS-RS Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Fayette Maine Posts: 387