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Birm · 06-29-2012, 06:43 PM

Is this possible? I'm getting quite a bit of drone inside so was wondering if this was possible?

VR Baron · 06-29-2012, 08:01 PM

Maybe. Dont know what the setup looks like or the room to work with.

Birm · 06-29-2012, 08:14 PM

It's a chambered muffler straight thru design. No real deviation in size from the 3" pipes

VR Baron · 06-29-2012, 08:31 PM

here's a shot of mine.Flowaster outlaws, about 5" dia. You need a 2.5" section of pipe 28.5" long and formed the same per side, welded just ahead of the muffler in the same exact place. Lots of thread on this with more detail.

Birm · 06-29-2012, 08:55 PM

Did they help you quite a bit?

VR Baron · 06-29-2012, 10:02 PM

Yes. I tried the resonated x pipe and trunk insulation. Those helped a little around town but not on the freeway.The resonating boom in the cabin is gone, now its just exhaust sound and its more out back, not inside.You hear the tone on the freeway still, but that is just exhaust sound and depends on how loud your system really is. I still have the stock resonators but I just have the axelback, without them its to loud for my ears and to much popping. Also you hear it more when lugging in 6th uphill but thats normal.The outlaws are loud, a 5-6" diameter tube and no insulation so that can resonates. If I do shorty headers Iwill add the res x pipe back in and delete the stockers.

Kiowa88 · 06-30-2012, 09:15 PM

+1 on the J-Pipes. I'm running a cam with long tubes, hi-flows and the outlaw mufflers. Drone was horrendous until I got the J-pipes. If you get the pipes from solo you can always remove the caps when ever you want to be loud and obnoxious. Best of both worlds!

S3XPanther · 07-23-2012, 04:29 PM

That's weird, I thought the retro chambered didn't have any drone. At least, that's what I've read, even from people with an aggressive cam like yourself, Birm.

summitss/rsls3 · 07-23-2012, 04:47 PM

Stainless works retro here, and I have no drone what so ever. It is a little loud at some RPMs but it is just exhaust sound not drone. My magnaflow had drone this does not.

Good2go · 07-24-2012, 04:44 AM

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Originally Posted by summitss/rsls3

Stainless works retro here, and I have no drone what so ever. It is a little loud at some RPMs but it is just exhaust sound not drone. My magnaflow had drone this does not.

Birm · 07-25-2012, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by summitss/rsls3

Stainless works retro here, and I have no drone what so ever. It is a little loud at some RPMs but it is just exhaust sound not drone. My magnaflow had drone this does not.

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Originally Posted by Good2go

Thats the thing though, "Drone" is subjective. Some people are more sensitive to different frequencies, so an interior resonance in that said frequency or "sound" level could be considered "drone".

I understand it is considered a "no-drone" system, hence the reason I bought it. Don't get me wrong, I love the sound that comes from it, specially at idle and WOT.

But for ME, there is some resonance in the cab that I plan on tuning out with a J-Pipe.

Thanks for the input from everyone though, and if you are ever in the Tampa area (soon) I will gladly take you for a ride and show what I am attempting to explain.

summitss/rsls3 · 07-25-2012, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Birm

Thats the thing though, "Drone" is subjective. Some people are more sensitive to different frequencies, so an interior resonance in that said frequency or "sound" level could be considered "drone".

I understand it is considered a "no-drone" system, hence the reason I bought it. Don't get me wrong, I love the sound that comes from it, specially at idle and WOT.

But for ME, there is some resonance in the cab that I plan on tuning out with a J-Pipe.

Thanks for the input from everyone though, and if you are ever in the Tampa area (soon) I will gladly take you for a ride and show what I am attempting to explain.

Completely understandable, everyone's ears are different. Just thought I'd throw out my experience that way everyone didn't get a misconception that the retro was a horrible droning exhaust. Hope you get your problem fixed because this is by far the best exhaust a guy can put on a 5th gen.

BigRed585Lbs · 07-25-2012, 09:53 AM

Play this video and listen to the sound "only". The drone only comes in at a particular speed/rpm combination. That's what I've been talking about, not exhaust system sound.

Isn't it?

Birm · 07-25-2012, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by summitss/rsls3

Completely understandable, everyone's ears are different. Just thought I'd throw out my experience that way everyone didn't get a misconception that the retro was a horrible droning exhaust. Hope you get your problem fixed because this is by far the best exhaust a guy can put on a 5th gen.

Oh I agree, like I said, I LOVE the way it sounds, I could just do without the 18-1900 Cruising interior resonance that TO ME is drone.. Still the best exhaust money can buy in my opinion!

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Originally Posted by BigRed585Lbs

Play this video and listen to the sound "only". The drone only comes in at a particular speed/rpm combination. That's what I've been talking about, not exhaust system sound.

Isn't it?

Exactly!!!!!

06-29-2012, 06:43 PM	#1
Birm Drives: Florida Speed & Power Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Pinellas Park, FL Posts: 3,185	Adding Solo J pipes to SW Retro Chambered 3" Is this possible? I'm getting quite a bit of drone inside so was wondering if this was possible?

06-29-2012, 08:31 PM	#4
VR Baron SoCal Camaro5 Race Team Drives: 2021 Shadow Grey Camaro 2SS 1LE Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: SO CAL Posts: 14,288	here's a shot of mine.Flowaster outlaws, about 5" dia. You need a 2.5" section of pipe 28.5" long and formed the same per side, welded just ahead of the muffler in the same exact place. Lots of thread on this with more detail. Attached Images

06-30-2012, 09:15 PM	#7
Kiowa88 Out Front! Drives: OH-58D (R) Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Savannah, GA Posts: 139 View My Garage	+1 on the J-Pipes. I'm running a cam with long tubes, hi-flows and the outlaw mufflers. Drone was horrendous until I got the J-pipes. If you get the pipes from solo you can always remove the caps when ever you want to be loud and obnoxious. Best of both worlds! __________________ B Troop, 3-17CAV - Out Front

07-23-2012, 04:29 PM	#8
S3XPanther by Odeon Drives: '12 SS/RS A6 IOM SOLD, '13 1LE IOM Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Good question Posts: 1,707	That's weird, I thought the retro chambered didn't have any drone. At least, that's what I've read, even from people with an aggressive cam like yourself, Birm. __________________ "It works 60% of the time, every time." "Some say it's a waste of time, others say it's an incredible waste of time." "The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy." 2013 IOM SS/RS - 1LE. Born 5/6/2013 (1 of 32 1SS IOM 1LE's)

07-23-2012, 04:47 PM	#9
summitss/rsls3 Drives: summit white/IOM ss/rs ls3 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Grand Island, Ne Posts: 556	Stainless works retro here, and I have no drone what so ever. It is a little loud at some RPMs but it is just exhaust sound not drone. My magnaflow had drone this does not. __________________ _____________________________________ 2010 Summit White w/IOM stripes SS/RS LS3, Pfadt spings, Richmond 4.11 gears, GTO clutch reservoir mod.,MGW shifter with retro handle, TSW Nurgurgring wheels, Nitto NT05R 315/35R20 on rear, Kooks 1 7/8 LT's no cats, Stainless works retro chambered catback, Cold Air Inductions CAI, Texas Speed UD pulley, LG G6x3 cam, PRC dual valvesprings w/titanium seats and retainers, Texas Speed 7.4" hardened push rods, Lethal Ported Fast LSXr 102, Ported stock TB, RX catchcan. Tuned by Dan at Dynosport in Lincoln, NE 483RWHP/442RWTQ SAE corrected.

06-29-2012, 08:01 PM	#2
VR Baron SoCal Camaro5 Race Team Drives: 2021 Shadow Grey Camaro 2SS 1LE Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: SO CAL Posts: 14,288	Maybe. Dont know what the setup looks like or the room to work with.

06-29-2012, 08:14 PM	#3
Birm Drives: Florida Speed & Power Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Pinellas Park, FL Posts: 3,185	It's a chambered muffler straight thru design. No real deviation in size from the 3" pipes

06-29-2012, 08:55 PM	#5
Birm Drives: Florida Speed & Power Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Pinellas Park, FL Posts: 3,185	Did they help you quite a bit?

06-29-2012, 10:02 PM	#6
VR Baron SoCal Camaro5 Race Team Drives: 2021 Shadow Grey Camaro 2SS 1LE Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: SO CAL Posts: 14,288	Yes. I tried the resonated x pipe and trunk insulation. Those helped a little around town but not on the freeway.The resonating boom in the cabin is gone, now its just exhaust sound and its more out back, not inside.You hear the tone on the freeway still, but that is just exhaust sound and depends on how loud your system really is. I still have the stock resonators but I just have the axelback, without them its to loud for my ears and to much popping. Also you hear it more when lugging in 6th uphill but thats normal.The outlaws are loud, a 5-6" diameter tube and no insulation so that can resonates. If I do shorty headers Iwill add the res x pipe back in and delete the stockers.