Brakes Failed contact NHTSA!!

jwestm · 01-09-2018, 06:38 PM

I am staring a new thread on this so it stays in the light.

I have 2016 2SS and at the time the breaks failed its had 4500 miles.

I like several owners have had my breaks fail at low speeds. They start to pulsate and lose all breaking power.

I had to slow the car using my transmission.

Thank God I didn't hit any one

My DIC showed an error with the Hill Assist

Took car to dealer and they claimed there was no code.

I spoke to Chevy and they said that of the dealer said it was fine than it was good to go.

Several people have reported this and there may be a link to the vacuum booster but there seems to be no official policy from Chevy on this issue.

I have 455hp car that has unreliable brakes and I have been basically told I imagined it.

And a dealer that doesn't instill confidence that they know what they are doing.

As a general rule how many people have to die in accidents before GM fixes something?

Is it like 5-10 fatalities or more like 25-50??

How many Gen6 Camaros have crashed because of brake failure but the driver died so no one knows to look for the problem???

I have filed a complaint with the NHTSA.

If you have brake issues I encourage you to do the same.

rap47 · 01-09-2018, 06:50 PM

Can't say I have ever heard about anybody having problems with their brakes. My SS has the best brakes on any car I have driven in my life!!!!

nearwater · 01-09-2018, 06:59 PM

Also my first time hearing such complaints. Very serious issue nevertheless.
Hope you get it taken care of.
Keep us posted on how it goes.

Tenfive · 01-09-2018, 07:02 PM

Your claims of failing brakes sounds odd, do u have a video or screenshot of the repair order ? Has it done it again ? Sounds really weird.

Number 3 · 01-09-2018, 07:20 PM

Brakes don't fail. Power assist may but you have manual brakes as. Back up.

Also brakes are valved in such a way that you have two systems, front left and rear right and then front right and rear left.

Losing power assist can be very disconcerting. Same as power steering. Feels almost like you have nothing when you do.

But to actually lose braking ability is a very odd and unique failure and then to regain normal function later.

Good luck.

Lerch98 · 01-09-2018, 07:42 PM

the brakes on mine could stop a train.
These brakes are excellent.

Gunkk · 01-09-2018, 07:57 PM

Any system that can reduce pressure between the pedal and the pad can fail “open” resulting in reduced braking.

Googling “gm abs brakes fail” showed me three links with behavior sim8lar to the OP: vibration at low speed and no stopping. Basically the ABS activates on its own when it shouldn’t, and the car (or truck in that case) won’t stop.

mekirk2 · 01-09-2018, 07:57 PM

Mine has done it. TWICE. At low speeds and it is EXACTLY as he describes. Power booster failure makes the pedal stiff and hard to press. Thats not what this is. The brake pedal goes TO THE FLOOR and then pulsates like crazy. Car will stop but it scares the hell out of you. Did it twice in the first two months I owned it and never did it again (have about 11K miles on it). Turned the car off and back on and it fixed it. Couldnt replicate so I didnt take it to the dealer as I know they have to replicate it. Tried to get it recorded but it never did it again after the 2nd time.

MiamiBlueCamaro · 01-09-2018, 08:02 PM

Scary stuff!

Tenfive · 01-09-2018, 08:22 PM

Ok so two cars , one thing in common , they are 2016s . Maybe its like the 84 vette with crossfire injection .

JFM-jr · 01-09-2018, 08:35 PM

1st ive ever heard of this issue as well.

jimmypop13 · 01-09-2018, 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tenfive

Ok so two cars , one thing in common , they are 2016s . Maybe its like the 84 vette with crossfire injection .

Better not be a 2016 thing!

'01LS1 · 01-09-2018, 11:14 PM

This is the first I have heard of this brake issue. Have you asked other Chevrolet dealerships in your area what they may have heard or know?

That aside, do not think it is a wise idea to make a claim about a mysterious brake issue & then a complaint about a Ford dealer giving you a lowball trade in offer all in the same night.
http://www.camaro6.com/forums/showth...=485221&page=6

camaro5 · 01-09-2018, 11:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by camaro5

Here's a great clue...Sticky vac sensor

Power Brake Booster Replacement

The vacuum in the brake booster assembly is measured by the brake booster vacuum sensor.

The Engine Control Module (ECM) supplies a 5 V reference and a low reference circuit to the brake booster vacuum sensor.

The vacuum sensor supplies a voltage signal in relation to the pressure in the brake booster to the ECM.

To address this condition, install a new power vacuum brake booster.

Do not replace the ECM or power brake booster vacuum sensor.

YMMV

6 page thread on this:
http://www.camaro6.com/forums/showth...ighlight=break

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01-09-2018, 06:38 PM	#1
jwestm Drives: Black 2016 2SS Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Hollywood Posts: 7	Brakes Failed contact NHTSA!! I am staring a new thread on this so it stays in the light. I have 2016 2SS and at the time the breaks failed its had 4500 miles. I like several owners have had my breaks fail at low speeds. They start to pulsate and lose all breaking power. I had to slow the car using my transmission. Thank God I didn't hit any one My DIC showed an error with the Hill Assist Took car to dealer and they claimed there was no code. I spoke to Chevy and they said that of the dealer said it was fine than it was good to go. Several people have reported this and there may be a link to the vacuum booster but there seems to be no official policy from Chevy on this issue. I have 455hp car that has unreliable brakes and I have been basically told I imagined it. And a dealer that doesn't instill confidence that they know what they are doing. As a general rule how many people have to die in accidents before GM fixes something? Is it like 5-10 fatalities or more like 25-50?? How many Gen6 Camaros have crashed because of brake failure but the driver died so no one knows to look for the problem??? I have filed a complaint with the NHTSA. If you have brake issues I encourage you to do the same.

01-09-2018, 06:59 PM	#3
nearwater Drives: '17 2SS 50th Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Southeast Posts: 422	Also my first time hearing such complaints. Very serious issue nevertheless. Hope you get it taken care of. Keep us posted on how it goes. __________________ '17 2SS 50th Anniversary \| M6 \| MRC \| NPP \| Nav \| Sunroof \| Black bowtie \| GM dark tail

01-09-2018, 07:20 PM	#5
Number 3 Hail to the King baby! Drives: '19 XT4 2.0T & '22 VW Atlas 2.0T Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Illinois Posts: 12,171 View My Garage	Brakes don't fail. Power assist may but you have manual brakes as. Back up. Also brakes are valved in such a way that you have two systems, front left and rear right and then front right and rear left. Losing power assist can be very disconcerting. Same as power steering. Feels almost like you have nothing when you do. But to actually lose braking ability is a very odd and unique failure and then to regain normal function later. Good luck. __________________ "Speed, it seems to me, provides the one genuinely modern pleasure." - Aldous Huxley

01-09-2018, 08:02 PM	#9
MiamiBlueCamaro Drives: Gen 6 Camaro RS Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Miami FL Posts: 1,725	Scary stuff! Attached Images

01-09-2018, 08:35 PM	#11
JFM-jr Drives: 2016 Camaro 2SS Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Suffolk Long Island Posts: 954	1st ive ever heard of this issue as well. __________________ 2016 Hyper Blue 2SS A8,NPP,Moonroof Pray ported factory intake manifold Ported TB Rotofab ARH 1 7/8 longtubes hi flow cats AFM deleted E85 11.0@124.9 11.65@118.8 pump gas,stock tune/exhaust New combo: Pray Performance Heads/cam MSD intake manifold and Circle D 3C 554/491 on E85 all work & tuning done by Pray

01-09-2018, 06:50 PM	#2
rap47 Drives: 2017 Camaro SS 50th Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: Iowa Posts: 91	Can't say I have ever heard about anybody having problems with their brakes. My SS has the best brakes on any car I have driven in my life!!!!

01-09-2018, 07:02 PM	#4
Tenfive Drives: 2017 1SS camaro ,2SS a 68 + 08 C6 Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: West palm beach Posts: 495	Your claims of failing brakes sounds odd, do u have a video or screenshot of the repair order ? Has it done it again ? Sounds really weird.

01-09-2018, 07:42 PM	#6
Lerch98 Drives: 2017 2SS black on black on black. Join Date: May 2017 Location: Milwaukee Posts: 276	the brakes on mine could stop a train. These brakes are excellent.

01-09-2018, 07:57 PM	#7
Gunkk Thank you Al Oppenheiser! Drives: Red Hot A10 ZL1 Convertible Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Sarasota, FL Posts: 4,975 View My Garage	Any system that can reduce pressure between the pedal and the pad can fail “open” resulting in reduced braking. Googling “gm abs brakes fail” showed me three links with behavior sim8lar to the OP: vibration at low speed and no stopping. Basically the ABS activates on its own when it shouldn’t, and the car (or truck in that case) won’t stop.

01-09-2018, 07:57 PM	#8
mekirk2 Drives: 2016 2SS Ragtop Garnet Red Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Alabama Posts: 447	Mine has done it. TWICE. At low speeds and it is EXACTLY as he describes. Power booster failure makes the pedal stiff and hard to press. Thats not what this is. The brake pedal goes TO THE FLOOR and then pulsates like crazy. Car will stop but it scares the hell out of you. Did it twice in the first two months I owned it and never did it again (have about 11K miles on it). Turned the car off and back on and it fixed it. Couldnt replicate so I didnt take it to the dealer as I know they have to replicate it. Tried to get it recorded but it never did it again after the 2nd time.

01-09-2018, 08:22 PM	#10
Tenfive Drives: 2017 1SS camaro ,2SS a 68 + 08 C6 Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: West palm beach Posts: 495	Ok so two cars , one thing in common , they are 2016s . Maybe its like the 84 vette with crossfire injection .

01-09-2018, 11:14 PM	#13
'01LS1 Drives: 2003 Pete Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: IL Posts: 350	This is the first I have heard of this brake issue. Have you asked other Chevrolet dealerships in your area what they may have heard or know? That aside, do not think it is a wise idea to make a claim about a mysterious brake issue & then a complaint about a Ford dealer giving you a lowball trade in offer all in the same night. http://www.camaro6.com/forums/showth...=485221&page=6

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