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Bat Maro · 11-12-2013, 04:22 PM

so im having issues with my Electronic Power Steering (EPS) when taking right turns at higher speeds the steering wheel starts to lock up and make a cracking noise. and my dealer as expected is trying to blame my mods on my steering issue!

nice try! i told them by law you have to prove that this is causing the issue. they said their tech said the steering shaft was rubbing against my after market headers LOL (at this point im fuming because i did the install of my headers and my exhaust and i know for a fact this is BULL SH*T!) i said well i know for a fact your tech is lying. the steering shaft would rub all the time not just on certain turns at certain speeds. i am a tech i went to school for automotive and ive been turning wrenches on cars since im 16. i new this was a lie because i checked to make sure the steering shaft wasnt coming anywhere near the headers and guess what? its not! the damn headers were designed to not touch the steering shaft!

its a problem in the steering box itself the chevy cobalts were famous for this same kind of problem with the EPS and the ZL1 has had similar problems with the EPS. ATLANTIC CHEVY is a bunch of lying crooks. im going there tomorrow on the war path. any suggestions on what i should do? should i bring it to a different dealer even tho i got the car from them? thanks in advance for any help guys/gals.

*The_Blur* · 11-12-2013, 04:26 PM

Have you raised hell yet? I started a thread about not rewarding these idiots with your money and time, and the best payback for bad service is terrible reviews on every website that you can give them 1 star or less.

colemanvoice · 11-12-2013, 04:28 PM

My first thought is, if they aren't helpful now, will they ever be? Will you be able to trust them? If you don't trust them, do you want them working on your car? Just thoughts I have.

Good luck.

camaro1350 · 11-12-2013, 06:23 PM

Go to a different dealership. I wouldn't trust them working on my camaro.

Bat Maro · 11-12-2013, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by colemanvoice

My first thought is, if they aren't helpful now, will they ever be? Will you be able to trust them? If you don't trust them, do you want them working on your car? Just thoughts I have.

Good luck.

i dont want them working on it but can i bring the car else where? since i got the car from them can i bring it to another chevy dealer?

gmpartsman · 11-12-2013, 06:33 PM

yes you can take it to any gm dealer,doesnt even have to be a chevy dealer if that is what you choose

AdamEL · 11-12-2013, 06:51 PM

Time for a different dealer. Any Chevy dealer can help you out. Or as Gmpartsman said, you can even take it to any GM dealer. Same thing.

toNspahreP · 11-12-2013, 06:52 PM

Believe it or not, the shaft will rub at certain times at certain speeds, depending on the lateral load on the car the engine position vs steering shaft position does change, and that is probably indeed the issue.

Bat Maro · 11-12-2013, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by toNspahreP

Believe it or not, the shaft will rub at certain times at certain speeds, depending on the lateral load on the car the engine position vs steering shaft position does change, and that is probably indeed the issue.

but it did this before the headers.. and how come ive never heard of this before now? if this is the case what can i do to correct it? and it only rubs on right turns?? lol this isnt making sense to me.

Bat Maro · 11-12-2013, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Comrando

You should be able to see shiny marks if it rubs. Right turns the engine will probably shift a bit to the left and the steering may move to the right.

If it did it before headers why didn't you bring it in for repairs?

Next option is back to stock manifolds and exhaust.

i didnt bring it in sooner because the problem wasnt always happening. now i can replicate it on command. http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=130089 here is the SAME issue im having and this person had it in 2011 and this member had shorty headers.

DemonZL1 · 11-12-2013, 07:12 PM

better double check those headers. i had the exact same issue and checked my header clearance, there was a gap. After several hundred miles i noticed white marks on one of my header pipes. My shaft is white .... your symptoms are identical to my issues. noise and binding.

Bat Maro · 11-12-2013, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by CoolStoryBro

better double check those headers. i had the exact same issue and checked my header clearance, there was a gap. After several hundred miles i noticed white marks on one of my header pipes. My shaft is white .... your symptoms are identical to my issues. noise and binding.

okay ill double check

ss04flores · 11-12-2013, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by toNspahreP

Believe it or not, the shaft will rub at certain times at certain speeds, depending on the lateral load on the car the engine position vs steering shaft position does change, and that is probably indeed the issue.

I also believe this is true but I also remember the cobalts having this issue. Some were even popping off while driving. However like someone mentioned before, check for rubbing marks.

Bat Maro · 11-12-2013, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ss04flores

I also believe this is true but I also remember the cobalts having this issue. Some were even popping off while driving. However like someone mentioned before, check for rubbing marks.

hmm yeah i guess ill double check at the dealer again tomorrow. if so could i have done any damage? like do i have to worry about something breaking from this

11-12-2013, 04:22 PM	#1
Bat Maro Drives: 2013 Camaro 2SS L99 A6 Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Long Island, New York Posts: 251	my dealer is making the steering issue a nightmare so im having issues with my Electronic Power Steering (EPS) when taking right turns at higher speeds the steering wheel starts to lock up and make a cracking noise. and my dealer as expected is trying to blame my mods on my steering issue! nice try! i told them by law you have to prove that this is causing the issue. they said their tech said the steering shaft was rubbing against my after market headers LOL (at this point im fuming because i did the install of my headers and my exhaust and i know for a fact this is BULL SHT!) i said well i know for a fact your tech is lying. the steering shaft would rub all the time not just on certain turns at certain speeds. i am a tech i went to school for automotive and ive been turning wrenches on cars since im 16. i new this was a lie because i checked to make sure the steering shaft wasnt coming anywhere near the headers and guess what? its not! the damn headers were designed to not touch the steering shaft! its a problem in the steering box itself the chevy cobalts were famous for this same kind of problem with the EPS and the ZL1 has had similar problems with the EPS. ATLANTIC CHEVY is a bunch of lying crooks. im going there tomorrow on the war path. any suggestions on what i should do? should i bring it to a different dealer even tho i got the car from them? thanks in advance for any help guys/gals. __________________ 2013 2SS A6- Vette Doctor tuned-375whp 392wtq cold air inductions intake stainless power 1 7/8" headers stainless works HF cats stainless works 3" retro chambered exhaust full de-badge of entire car Last edited by Bat Maro; 11-12-2013 at 06:24 PM.*

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11-12-2013, 04:28 PM	#3
colemanvoice team chicklet camaro Drives: MOTL3Y Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Cumming GA Posts: 1,384 View My Garage	My first thought is, if they aren't helpful now, will they ever be? Will you be able to trust them? If you don't trust them, do you want them working on your car? Just thoughts I have. Good luck. __________________

11-12-2013, 06:23 PM	#4
camaro1350 Drives: 2013 Camaro RS 1LT, 6M Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Albany, OR Posts: 603	Go to a different dealership. I wouldn't trust them working on my camaro. __________________

11-12-2013, 07:12 PM	#11
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11-12-2013, 06:33 PM	#6
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11-12-2013, 06:51 PM	#7
AdamEL Adam E. Lucchesi Drives: 2010 1SS/RS LS3 VR Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Memphis, TN Posts: 1,381 View My Garage	Time for a different dealer. Any Chevy dealer can help you out. Or as Gmpartsman said, you can even take it to any GM dealer. Same thing.

11-12-2013, 06:52 PM	#8
toNspahreP Account Suspended Drives: SS Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: jawja Posts: 128	Believe it or not, the shaft will rub at certain times at certain speeds, depending on the lateral load on the car the engine position vs steering shaft position does change, and that is probably indeed the issue.