Any v6 owners replace their powerplant with the LS3, or LS1? - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

Viper595 · 12-24-2010, 03:57 PM

Apologies in advance if this is placed into the wrong forum, was trying to decide if it should go into the v6 or v8 engine forum, lol. A buddy of mine is thinking of buying a new 5th gen camaro, gutting it and then building it from the ground up to be a street/strip car. I'm not quite sure that the ultimate and final result would be cheaper than just buying an SS, but I figured I'd at least ask on here first, before just throwing numbers and an opinion out. Thanks guys!

slick rick · 12-24-2010, 04:06 PM

I believe the consensus was to just get the SS from the start

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=56454

BigMatt · 12-24-2010, 04:12 PM

body in white

bluetooth-ss · 12-24-2010, 04:39 PM

Go for the SS. I would think it would be cheaper to build the SS up than what it would be to by a V6 and try to swap in a LS3.

midnighter · 12-24-2010, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by bluetooth-ss

Go for the SS. I would think it would be cheaper to build the SS up than what it would be to by a V6 and try to swap in a LS3.

Yea this

DarkneSS · 12-24-2010, 05:30 PM

It would bbe idiotic to swap out the V6 motor.

The only reasonable choice is a built up tranny/rear and a built up 3.6 liter with forced induction on a v6.

Merc · 12-24-2010, 05:48 PM

That's just silly.

the Kolektor · 12-24-2010, 06:03 PM

If he is just wanting to build for street/strip, why not get a empty shell and start fresh?? I think the shells are around $18,000ish. Just another idea.

Rwarchol · 12-24-2010, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by bluetooth-ss

Go for the SS. I would think it would be cheaper to build the SS up than what it would be to by a V6 and try to swap in a LS3.

This considering the price of a crate LS3. Even an LS1 wouldn't make sense considering the price vs. the price difference between even an LS and SS. Then people would just think you had a really slow SS if you had an LS1 in there.

Ivas · 12-24-2010, 06:32 PM

If you REALLY wanna' build a racing Camaro, maybe the cheapest route WOULD be best. After getting the best deal you can on an LS, yank out the six, sell it, buy an LX block and build it from bottom up, Kenne Bell 3.6, et cetera. Drop it in the car, of course there are hella other mods to make, but voilà a racing beauty.

Sterling · 12-24-2010, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by BigMatt

body in white

Only problem with a body in white is that you can't ever drive it on the street.

SC2150 · 12-24-2010, 07:01 PM

If he was close enough that is just the project I would be all over. From the chassis up could make it a street legal 8 sec drag/Pro Street type.

*The_Blur* · 12-24-2010, 07:30 PM

I would be willing to drop the LS3 in mine, but the work required would be extensive. The V6-equipped transmission does not bolt to the LS-series V8, plus it would be logical to upgrade the transmission because it is weaker than the SS version. Since the transmission will have been swapped, the rest of the driveline should probably go, too. That extra power means you might want extra braking and upgraded suspension components, as well.

Basically, if you're going to do this work, you need to be prepared to remove everything under the hood and under the car. I'd love to do this project, but I simply can't afford it. :(

It is worth pointing out that an LS with major upgrades will cost less than an SS with the same major upgrades depending on your goals. For instance, if you're going to upgrade the brakes to 6-piston brakes, then why buy the 4-piston Brembos on the SS? Also, consider the suspension. Why have a complete FE3 suspension if you were going to upgrade the whole thing anyway? The FE2 would be just fine. If you want to go even further, an engine swap with an even more powerful unit—LS7, LSA, LS9—would cost the same whether you start with a more expensive V8 or a less expensive V6.

VR Baron · 12-24-2010, 10:50 PM

Nope, do SS. Personally I'm keeping my LS1 where it belongs, in my Z28

12-24-2010, 03:57 PM	#1
Viper595 Redline drop, or go home Drives: 2010 Camaro SS Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Overland Park Posts: 263	Any v6 owners replace their powerplant with the LS3, or LS1? Apologies in advance if this is placed into the wrong forum, was trying to decide if it should go into the v6 or v8 engine forum, lol. A buddy of mine is thinking of buying a new 5th gen camaro, gutting it and then building it from the ground up to be a street/strip car. I'm not quite sure that the ultimate and final result would be cheaper than just buying an SS, but I figured I'd at least ask on here first, before just throwing numbers and an opinion out. Thanks guys! __________________ I can fix cars. *I can't fix people.* 2010 Camaro SS #123444 - K&N Typhoon CAI, Muffler Delete, MPD-1 Spoiler, Headlight Armor Blackouts. Mods to come: longtubes/tune/flux capacitor Understeer is when you hit the wall with the front of the car. Oversteer is when you hit the wall with the rear of the car. Horsepower is how fast you hit the wall. Torque is how far you take the wall with you.

12-24-2010, 04:06 PM	#2
slick rick SoCal Mayhem Drives: 2010 Camaro 1SS/RS Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Foothill Ranch, CA Posts: 5,488 View My Garage	I believe the consensus was to just get the SS from the start http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=56454 __________________

12-24-2010, 04:12 PM	#3
BigMatt 2010 Camaro 2 SS/RS M6 Drives: 2010 Camaro SS/RS Join Date: May 2009 Location: Clayton Delaware Posts: 1,218 View My Garage	body in white __________________ Forged LS3, FED M311 heads, CAI Inc, ARH 1 7/8, Corsa Xtreme, Taylor Wires, MGW Shifter, Street slayer twin carbon clutch, Tick braided clutch line & speed bleeder, ZL1 Diff Swap, BMR Split drop, Sway Bars, Trailing Arms, Toe Rods, Pro bushing kit, Carslyle racing 15in conversion, Whipple, LPE dual fuel pumps, Rx catch can, Id1300x, Alky Control

12-24-2010, 04:39 PM	#4
bluetooth-ss Drives: 2010 ABM 2SS/RS A6 and 2018 2500 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: FLORIDA Posts: 2,069	Go for the SS. I would think it would be cheaper to build the SS up than what it would be to by a V6 and try to swap in a LS3. __________________ BLUETOOTH-SS

12-24-2010, 06:03 PM	#8
the Kolektor Patiently waiting.... Drives: 2007 Jeep Wrangler Sahara Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Louisville, Ky Posts: 625	If he is just wanting to build for street/strip, why not get a empty shell and start fresh?? I think the shells are around $18,000ish. Just another idea. __________________ You Know......Sometimes you just can't fix stupid!!!!

12-24-2010, 05:30 PM	#6
DarkneSS Account Suspended Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS 6MT Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Westchester, New York Posts: 3,715	It would bbe idiotic to swap out the V6 motor. The only reasonable choice is a built up tranny/rear and a built up 3.6 liter with forced induction on a v6.

12-24-2010, 05:48 PM	#7
Merc In The Circle Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SSRS IOM M6 Join Date: May 2009 Location: Abbotsford BC Canada Posts: 11,291	That's just silly.

12-24-2010, 06:32 PM	#10
Ivas el Ruco Drives: 2010 Camaro SS (now runnin' TENS ) Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Fontana, CA Posts: 7,388	Go ahead, man! If you REALLY wanna' build a racing Camaro, maybe the cheapest route WOULD be best. After getting the best deal you can on an LS, yank out the six, sell it, buy an LX block and build it from bottom up, Kenne Bell 3.6, et cetera. Drop it in the car, of course there are hella other mods to make, but voilà a racing beauty.

12-24-2010, 07:01 PM	#12
SC2150 Account Suspended Drives: 2012 Camaro RS, RX supercharged Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Bradenton, FL Posts: 6,063	If he was close enough that is just the project I would be all over. From the chassis up could make it a street legal 8 sec drag/Pro Street type.

12-24-2010, 07:30 PM	#13
The_Blur Moderator Drives: 2018 Harley-Davidson Street Bob Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: San Diego Posts: 14,769	I would be willing to drop the LS3 in mine, but the work required would be extensive. The V6-equipped transmission does not bolt to the LS-series V8, plus it would be logical to upgrade the transmission because it is weaker than the SS version. Since the transmission will have been swapped, the rest of the driveline should probably go, too. That extra power means you might want extra braking and upgraded suspension components, as well. Basically, if you're going to do this work, you need to be prepared to remove everything under the hood and under the car. I'd love to do this project, but I simply can't afford it. :( It is worth pointing out that an LS with major upgrades will cost less than an SS with the same major upgrades depending on your goals. For instance, if you're going to upgrade the brakes to 6-piston brakes, then why buy the 4-piston Brembos on the SS? Also, consider the suspension. Why have a complete FE3 suspension if you were going to upgrade the whole thing anyway? The FE2 would be just fine. If you want to go even further, an engine swap with an even more powerful unit—LS7, LSA, LS9—would cost the same whether you start with a more expensive V8 or a less expensive V6. __________________ RDP Motorsport//GEN5DIY//Cultrag Performance//JPSS//Rodgets Chevrolet// Operation Demon//Buy at Invoice//RACECARWEAR RESPECT ALL CARS. LOVE YOUR OWN. warn 145:159 ban

12-24-2010, 10:50 PM	#14
VR Baron SoCal Camaro5 Race Team Drives: 2021 Shadow Grey Camaro 2SS 1LE Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: SO CAL Posts: 14,288	Nope, do SS. Personally I'm keeping my LS1 where it belongs, in my Z28

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