Spring Install affected my car's weight - NOT GOOD for racing

[68blk/yel396]

Originally Posted by mlee

Anyone who's installed springs might be interested in this.

Great Post and info for the Camaro community.......thanks for taking the time to post-up.

Originally Posted by MAD600SS

Owen knows some stuff, doesn't he!

+1 That's why he is my "Performance Advisor"

[Dinky Toy]

Originally Posted by mlee

Mainly just an excuse cuz I want some..

Haha, that's you Mike!

Greetings from India. My car maybe gone (sold) but not the passion.
Finally had some time this week to read up after 4-5 months of very little camaro5.

Boy you have gone all out! When I saw the NOS shot in the video I had to double check it was your car, never would have thought you to go mix and match and MENTAL (NOS and CAM) instead of a full tuner brand car!

Looks and sounds awesome, keep it up El Presidente!

Gr, Mike Q.

[mlee]

Originally Posted by Dinky Toy

Haha, that's you Mike!

Greetings from India. My car maybe gone (sold) but not the passion.
Finally had some time this week to read up after 4-5 months of very little camaro5.

Boy you have gone all out! When I saw the NOS shot in the video I had to double check it was your car, never would have thought you to go mix and match and METAL (NOS and CAM) instead of a full tuner brand car!

Looks and sounds awesome, keep it up El Presidente!

Gr, Mike Q.

Ha Ha... great to hear from you Mike... we miss your car in the group around here... Been quite a few folks in the club get some major upgrades...

come see us sometime when you're back in the states...

[JusticePete]

Great thread. Scaling a car make a huge difference in performance on the strip and in corners. Rear wheel alignment is another critical factor for both. On the strip, we want minimal camber so we get the tire square to the pavement. The more rubber we have on launch, the better. You can also play with the height adjustment. As a car launches off the strip having one side a bit higher than the other to compensate for driveline torque screwing down one side of the car helps. Sub-frame bushes or inserts also help with this as they keep the sub-frame 'square' to the car. Finally, a monster rear bar help more evenly distribute load to both tires.

You'll see race teams take a year to get the setup just right. Pay attention to details as already made clear in this thread and ALWAYS double check the driveline and suspension bolts to make sure they are tight. We run race car speeds in our 5th Gens and they are not light weights. That means bolts come loose. A 55 gallon drum of LocTite is always handy, but should never be used on the drain plugs or lug nuts.

[mlee]

Originally Posted by JusticePete

Great thread. Scaling a car make a huge difference in performance on the strip and in corners. Rear wheel alignment is another critical factor for both. On the strip, we want minimal camber so we get the tire square to the pavement. The more rubber we have on launch, the better. You can also play with the height adjustment. As a car launches off the strip having one side a bit higher than the other to compensate for driveline torque screwing down one side of the car helps. Sub-frame bushes or inserts also help with this as they keep the sub-frame 'square' to the car. Finally, a monster rear bar help more evenly distribute load to both tires.

You'll see race teams take a year to get the setup just right. Pay attention to details as already made clear in this thread and ALWAYS double check the driveline and suspension bolts to make sure they are tight. We run race car speeds in our 5th Gens and they are not light weights. That means bolts come loose. A 55 gallon drum of LocTite is always handy, but should never be used on the drain plugs or lug nuts.

Bout time you found this thread... more great info... we've found some twisted driveline bolts and things on at least one car... and hitting all the bolts with a wrench seems to always find something...

So how and what coilover setup will help me on the drag strip?

[JusticePete]

Originally Posted by mlee

Bout time you found this thread... more great info... we've found some twisted driveline bolts and things on at least one car... and hitting all the bolts with a wrench seems to always find something...

So how and what coilover setup will help me on the drag strip?

We have been working with Lingenfelter and the 'Black Pig'. They installed Pedders Supercars off the shelf and found 2/10s in the 60'. LPE is an extreme example running ridiculous HP and TQ numbers with true slicks. The problem they were having is it launched so hard it went full hard to the bump stops, bounced off and would then do it again more or less loading and unloading as it went down the track.

We'll have an announcement at C5Fest II regarding a special LINGENFELTER Edition Supercar setup that now delivers even bigger gains, yep an improvement greater than 2/10s in the 60'. I am biting my tongue. I can't say any more Get your credit cards ready we are about to release Gosh it is a great sunny day in Western Michigan.

[PoleCat2SSRS2010]

Here is the information on the book I mentioned. I can't believe the cost of this thing has gone up as much as it has.

Door Slammers:The Chassis Book
written by Dave Morgan
ISBN-13: 9780963121707
ISBN: 0963121707

Seems to still be available through Amazon. Here's a link for those that are interested.

http://www.amazon.com/Door-Slammers-...pr_product_top

[garcmol]

Originally Posted by mlee

Get a sharpie and draw circles around the bolts before you loosen them.
If your racing I would find someone with scales like these to see where you are at... It's a pretty quick job but finding scales might be a problem

That was a great tip! Helped me out a bunch today! Works for the struts up front too

[ron10]

there is a nice article in chevy performance about this very thing,in this months issue.

[mlee]

Originally Posted by JusticePete

We have been working with Lingenfelter and the 'Black Pig'. They installed Pedders Supercars off the shelf and found 2/10s in the 60'. LPE is an extreme example running ridiculous HP and TQ numbers with true slicks. The problem they were having is it launched so hard it went full hard to the bump stops, bounced off and would then do it again more or less loading and unloading as it went down the track.

We'll have an announcement at C5Fest II regarding a special LINGENFELTER Edition Supercar setup that now delivers even bigger gains, yep an improvement greater than 2/10s in the 60'. I am biting my tongue. I can't say any more Get your credit cards ready we are about to release Gosh it is a great sunny day in Western Michigan.

This must be what you meant to talk with me about in the parking lot of the fest and we both got sidetracked...

Originally Posted by PoleCat2SSRS2010

Here is the information on the book I mentioned. I can't believe the cost of this thing has gone up as much as it has.

Door Slammers:The Chassis Book
written by Dave Morgan
ISBN-13: 9780963121707
ISBN: 0963121707

Seems to still be available through Amazon. Here's a link for those that are interested.

http://www.amazon.com/Door-Slammers-...pr_product_top

Originally Posted by garcmol

That was a great tip! Helped me out a bunch today! Works for the struts up front too

Originally Posted by ron10

there is a nice article in chevy performance about this very thing,in this months issue.

I'll def check this one out..

[MARINE1991]

Originally Posted by mlee

Get a sharpie and draw circles around the bolts before you loosen them.

If your racing I would find someone with scales like these to see where you are at... It's a pretty quick job but finding scales might be a problem


Here's one video of a slightly crooked run, but the go pro on the front of the car really shows it last week.

Damn that car is fast... my car is at the performace shop getting lowering springs and kooks step headers and tune hope they dont mess it up...

[mlee]

Originally Posted by MARINE1991

Damn that car is fast... my car is at the performace shop getting lowering springs and kooks step headers and tune hope they dont mess it up...

Tks... that was with a 1.9 60'... now with things balanced out I'm getting 1.70 60' and should do better next time out, when the driver gets his stuff together.

Just tell them to mark the holes and make sure they tighten the springs and struts back in the same factory position.

[Weezerj]

very good information.

A side question, at 0:28 seconds into the video I see a spray shoot out from your hood area. What is that?

[garcmol]

Originally Posted by Weezerj

very good information.

A side question, at 0:28 seconds into the video I see a spray shoot out from your hood area. What is that?

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