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formare · 06-30-2010, 05:49 PM

Does anybody have this kit installed?

http://www.phastekperformance.com/20...s-cav6shwc.htm

Does it cause a cel?

KMPrenger · 06-30-2010, 06:51 PM

pretty sure thats what blade and a few others here are running.

Camaro Freak · 06-30-2010, 07:31 PM

Yep, check with Blade. I think he likes them pretty good.

mrray13 · 06-30-2010, 07:33 PM

Yep, that's the kit myself, Blade, ROD1 and devildoc all run. ( I think devildoc did ARHs)

In any case, they are indeed a quality product, IMHO, well worth the money.

Yes, it will cause a cel, as most, if not all, LTs will. You will either have to live with it, or get a tune.

gameovergt · 06-30-2010, 07:45 PM

Think I would rather have the Stainless Works LTs, about half the price.

Mr. Bill · 06-30-2010, 07:55 PM

What was the effect on MPG?

formare · 06-30-2010, 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrray13

Yep, that's the kit myself, Blade, ROD1 and devildoc all run. ( I think devildoc did ARHs)

In any case, they are indeed a quality product, IMHO, well worth the money.

Yes, it will cause a cel, as most, if not all, LTs will. You will either have to live with it, or get a tune.

Easy fix with two spark plug nofolwes per o2 sensor. I think I'll go bbk about a third of the price. They do cause cel as well but the forum has a fix for that...( eg the spark plug. Nonfolwers)

devildoc · 06-30-2010, 08:52 PM

Yep I have the ARHs I was the second person to have them installed. And NOPE - no CEL was thrown on mine. I think it may just depend.

mrray13 · 06-30-2010, 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gameovergt

Think I would rather have the Stainless Works LTs, about half the price.

Quote:

Originally Posted by formare

Easy fix with two spark plug nofolwes per o2 sensor. I think I'll go bbk about a third of the price. They do cause cel as well but the forum has a fix for that...( eg the spark plug. Nonfolwers)

I'm not going to knock BBK or Stainless Works, but ARH has the largest diameter primaries, and they are formed to the flange, not pressed. May not mean a bunch to some, but it's quality you can see.

Also, the quickest N/A, or otherwise, v6 on the board sports ARH, lol!!

Blade · 07-01-2010, 05:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by devildoc

Yep I have the ARHs I was the second person to have them installed. And NOPE - no CEL was thrown on mine. I think it may just depend.

Yea I didn't get any CELs either, but I got the tune anyway, because I changed the car so much. I just wanted to make sure everything was running together well.

I also think the ARHs sound better than the BBK. But who knows, I am crazy young and stupid

Anthony@StainlessWorks · 07-01-2010, 07:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrray13

I'm not going to knock BBK or Stainless Works, but ARH has the largest diameter primaries, and they are formed to the flange, not pressed. May not mean a bunch to some, but it's quality you can see.

We offer 1-3/4" and could you elaborate on what the difference between forming to the flange and pressing? Essentially one would use a press with some sort of die to form fit a primary to the flange.

ROD1 · 07-01-2010, 08:30 AM

I generally am reluctant to buy a product that isn't independently tested and proven. I have yet to see any independent testing on any headers but ARH. I was hoping I could take a look at BBK, SW, ARH and Pacesetter results. I would have based my purchase on performance alone which I did.

A.R. Headers · 07-01-2010, 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gameovergt

Think I would rather have the Stainless Works LTs, about half the price.

Gameover, Not sure where you got your information. We offer our system with various options. If you compare apples to apples you'll see the price is pretty close. If we cost more than any other brand I can guarantee you it's justified.

Nick

mrray13 · 07-02-2010, 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anthony@StainlessWorks

We offer 1-3/4" and could you elaborate on what the difference between forming to the flange and pressing? Essentially one would use a press with some sort of die to form fit a primary to the flange.

That's cool, I didn't know you offered yours in 1 3/4" for the v6. Learn something new everyday!

Pressing is just that, stick the tube in a press, hit the pedal/buttons, it applies pressure on two sides and flattens the tube to the correct shape.

Formed is what you described, only it applies the pressure all the way around the tube. This equal loading applies less stress to the tube, and should make for a stronger end product.

I don't know if it matters much in the end with headers, pressed or formed, but I prefer the formed tube. I have a set of JBA shorty headers, and they are pressed, there is a distinct difference between the two sets. The ARH's just have a better look of quality.

Again, no offense was meant. Just my opinion.

Looking at the prices, Nick is right though, Stainless Works and ARH are right inline with each other. Unless one finds a special, one isn't going to get the Stainless headers at 50% of the cost of ARHs. BBKs, well, they are cheaper.

06-30-2010, 05:49 PM	#1
formare The Milano Drives: 2017 Firefly ShipWorks Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Chicagoland (Crown Point, IN) Posts: 1,877 View My Garage	American racing headers v6 Does anybody have this kit installed? http://www.phastekperformance.com/20...s-cav6shwc.htm Does it cause a cel? __________________ My first Love. She was called "Miss Carriage" (still cry when I think about her) 383, Muncie 4 speed, custom linkage mated to hurst short throw shifter.

06-30-2010, 06:51 PM	#2
KMPrenger Drives: 16 Camaro SS, 15 Colorado Join Date: May 2009 Location: Jefferson City, Missouri Posts: 13,943	pretty sure thats what blade and a few others here are running. __________________ 2016 Camaro 1SS - 8-speed - NPP - Black bowties 2010 Camaro 1LT V6 (Sold. I will miss her!)

06-30-2010, 07:31 PM	#3
Camaro Freak Drives: 2010 IOM 2LT 334HP Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: NC Posts: 1,586	Yep, check with Blade. I think he likes them pretty good. __________________

06-30-2010, 07:33 PM	#4
mrray13 Drives: 2010 1LT RS Rally Yellow Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: southern Illinois Posts: 2,973	Yep, that's the kit myself, Blade, ROD1 and devildoc all run. ( I think devildoc did ARHs) In any case, they are indeed a quality product, IMHO, well worth the money. Yes, it will cause a cel, as most, if not all, LTs will. You will either have to live with it, or get a tune. __________________ *PacMan*

06-30-2010, 07:45 PM	#5
gameovergt G@M30v3RgT Drives: 2016 Mustang GT 5.0 DIB Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Jacksonville Posts: 213	Think I would rather have the Stainless Works LTs, about half the price. __________________ 2016 Ford Mustang Base 5.0 GT DIBM/Black Accent Package(AUTO) (STOCK).

06-30-2010, 07:55 PM	#6
Mr. Bill Drives: 2010 Camaro LS Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Bufords Ga Posts: 22	What was the effect on MPG?

06-30-2010, 08:52 PM	#8
devildoc Drives: '12 Toyota Tacoma Dbl Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Beaufort, SC Posts: 1,275 View My Garage	Yep I have the ARHs I was the second person to have them installed. And NOPE - no CEL was thrown on mine. I think it may just depend. __________________ MRT V2\|Trifecta Tune\|Airaid\|ARH LTs\|Eibach Sways STANDING 1/4MI: 13.948@99.87 6600RPM HP/TQ Gains - 30.54HP/24.3TQ (NOT PEAK)

07-01-2010, 08:30 AM	#12
ROD1 Retired Drives: 2010 Camaro RS V6 #1301 DOB 3/23/09 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Ithaca NY Posts: 2,563	I generally am reluctant to buy a product that isn't independently tested and proven. I have yet to see any independent testing on any headers but ARH. I was hoping I could take a look at BBK, SW, ARH and Pacesetter results. I would have based my purchase on performance alone which I did.

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