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Ragnar · 08-12-2016, 03:35 PM

So you had your original line and new line, both not fitting, WOW! Hopefully the Master Tech looks at your car and is able to get this figured out. Best of luck to you.

JerTM · 08-12-2016, 05:31 PM

I am very intrigued to find out why so much trouble with the lines. Keep us updated.

booneSS13 · 08-12-2016, 05:39 PM

Apparently my new transmission cooler line will be in Monday and they will have another 5th gen in to compare with. I'll definitely let you guys know what happens. Hopefully nothing drastic has to happen like them having to remove the power steering motor which sits parallel to the sway bar since I have a '13

booneSS13 · 08-24-2016, 10:00 AM

**Update**: Okay guys I picked my car up from the dealership a week ago and they said in order to install the hose properly the rack and pinion has to be moved and even after they do that they're not sure if they will have to jack the motor up or not.

They quoted me $445 if only the rack has to be moved. They say they aren't sure how much if they have to jack up the engine also. I went ahead and picked up the car and decided that's going to be a job for next year since I have to change my rack anyway since the electric power steering went out

JerTM · 08-24-2016, 05:58 PM

The labor shouldn't change based on what they think they could get away with. The industry standard is either Alldata or Mitchell times and are set based on warranty times plus a small margin, that takes into account all necessary items that need to be moved or repositioned. The tech working on your car is trying to rip you off by charging you more to do what is already part of the job. I'll look up the time tomorrow when I am at work and give you an estimate of labor you should reasonably expect to pay.

booneSS13 · 08-24-2016, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by JerTM

The labor shouldn't change based on what they think they could get away with. The industry standard is either Alldata or Mitchell times and are set based on warranty times plus a small margin, that takes into account all necessary items that need to be moved or repositioned. The tech working on your car is trying to rip you off by charging you more to do what is already part of the job. I'll look up the time tomorrow when I am at work and give you an estimate of labor you should reasonably expect to pay.

Yeah I talked to the shop foreman and the service writer at the same time about this and the shop foreman at first tried to tell me I have too many aftermarket modifications "in the way". I then told him that there's nothing on the external part of the engine that's even aftermarket besides the headers cold air intake and plug wires which has nothing to do with the install of the a/c lines. That's when he told me "well yeah we can do it then but it's going to be more than what you were quoted." and that's when the service adviser gave me a different price. They didn't really seem like they even wanted the job to be honest.

Thanks a lot for the info. That way I will know if the next dealer is trying to rip me off too since I'm taking it somewhere else.

JerTM · 08-25-2016, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by booneSS13

Yeah I talked to the shop foreman and the service writer at the same time about this and the shop foreman at first tried to tell me I have too many aftermarket modifications "in the way". I then told him that there's nothing on the external part of the engine that's even aftermarket besides the headers cold air intake and plug wires which has nothing to do with the install of the a/c lines. That's when he told me "well yeah we can do it then but it's going to be more than what you were quoted." and that's when the service adviser gave me a different price. They didn't really seem like they even wanted the job to be honest.

Thanks a lot for the info. That way I will know if the next dealer is trying to rip me off too since I'm taking it somewhere else.

Looking up the procedure on service information, the only things required to be removed for that line are the engine cover and intake. The labor on Alldata says .7 hr, so take their labor rate times .7 and that's what it should cost to replace the hose. Add in time for evac and recharge, r1-34a, and pag oil and that's the total. My shop rate is $110 so it would be $77 dollars to replace the hose and I think the evac and recharge rate is $120. So total should be $197 plus freon and PAG oil with dye. I've poked around there when I did my cam and when I did the oil pan gasket on another LS3 and didn't see any reason to move the steering gear or any other major component.

08-12-2016, 03:35 PM	#15
Ragnar Destroyed by flooding Drives: Wife's car Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Louisiana Posts: 4,673	So you had your original line and new line, both not fitting, WOW! Hopefully the Master Tech looks at your car and is able to get this figured out. Best of luck to you. __________________

08-12-2016, 05:39 PM	#17
booneSS13 Drives: 2013 Camaro SS LS3 Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Davenport IA Posts: 718	Apparently my new transmission cooler line will be in Monday and they will have another 5th gen in to compare with. I'll definitely let you guys know what happens. Hopefully nothing drastic has to happen like them having to remove the power steering motor which sits parallel to the sway bar since I have a '13 __________________ *Romans 5:8* But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us. -Fastlane Cold Air Intake, NPP cat back exhaust, Stainless Works LT Headers, 2r max camshaft, Stage 3 Ported Heads (Manley Stainless steel values, titanium retainers, dual valve springs, bronze guides), Wiseco Forged Pistons, K1 Forged Rods, Clevite Bearings, Factory Crankshaft, Comp Cams rocker arm trunion kit, Morel 5315 lifters, JP performance single billet timing chain, Melling oil pump, Spec stage 3+ clutch and flywheel, BMR trailing arms, Nitto 555r 305/35/20.

08-24-2016, 10:00 AM	#18
booneSS13 Drives: 2013 Camaro SS LS3 Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Davenport IA Posts: 718	Update: Okay guys I picked my car up from the dealership a week ago and they said in order to install the hose properly the rack and pinion has to be moved and even after they do that they're not sure if they will have to jack the motor up or not. They quoted me $445 if only the rack has to be moved. They say they aren't sure how much if they have to jack up the engine also. I went ahead and picked up the car and decided that's going to be a job for next year since I have to change my rack anyway since the electric power steering went out __________________ *Romans 5:8* But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us. -Fastlane Cold Air Intake, NPP cat back exhaust, Stainless Works LT Headers, 2r max camshaft, Stage 3 Ported Heads (Manley Stainless steel values, titanium retainers, dual valve springs, bronze guides), Wiseco Forged Pistons, K1 Forged Rods, Clevite Bearings, Factory Crankshaft, Comp Cams rocker arm trunion kit, Morel 5315 lifters, JP performance single billet timing chain, Melling oil pump, Spec stage 3+ clutch and flywheel, BMR trailing arms, Nitto 555r 305/35/20.

08-12-2016, 05:31 PM	#16
JerTM Drives: 2011 2SS/RS M6 Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Utah Posts: 1,940	I am very intrigued to find out why so much trouble with the lines. Keep us updated.

08-24-2016, 05:58 PM	#19
JerTM Drives: 2011 2SS/RS M6 Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Utah Posts: 1,940	The labor shouldn't change based on what they think they could get away with. The industry standard is either Alldata or Mitchell times and are set based on warranty times plus a small margin, that takes into account all necessary items that need to be moved or repositioned. The tech working on your car is trying to rip you off by charging you more to do what is already part of the job. I'll look up the time tomorrow when I am at work and give you an estimate of labor you should reasonably expect to pay.