Is $75,000 too much.

[Col. Brain]

Originally Posted by Thrillz

I just have a hard time wrapping my head around 75k for a new camaro. I dunno i think they should have made the 1LE the Z28 leave the ZL1 as the top dog and call it a day. Tell anyone who is not a car enthusiasts you have a 1LE they will look at you with 3 heads but say its a Z28 they know what that is. Is the camaro in any trim level not suppose to be affordable for many not just the elite rich folks? Seems to me GM was just trying to show off but it takes 75K invested in a Camaro to be a crazy track car. For that kind of money it better be stupid impressive. At the end of the day though its still a Camaro. I mean no disrespect but my wife calls the Camaro the official mulletmobile. Perhaps the folks at GM have forgot who exactly buys these type of cars. Just my 2 cents.

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i think this is an image the GM/Chevy has just shattered

anyone saying otherwise just is not into cars and not really worth the effort.

[Col. Brain]

Originally Posted by Zfatuated

One of the most overused, moronic, comments on here. Let's set something straight- you owe GM nothing, and GM owes you or anyone else...nothing. It's a f*cking business. They attempt to create cars that people want to give them money for. Got it so far?

People want to give GM money to buy a Z/28. That is reality. It's a win/win. Got it?

Sleep on that and let it sink in. Time moves on, things change, can you keep up?

I said it a few times before

People just wanted the Z28 badge on their V8 Camaro.

If this Z/28 was the 1LE would it matter to you who is actually buying it? Doubt it

This is the only thing i can figure out as to why people are so butt hurt over it.


Keeping the mullets from their Z28 - how dare Chevy

[Thrillz]

Originally Posted by Zfatuated

One of the most overused, moronic, comments on here. Let's set something straight- you owe GM nothing, and GM owes you or anyone else...nothing. It's a f*cking business. They attempt to create cars that people want to give them money for. Got it so far?

People want to give GM money to buy a Z/28. That is reality. It's a win/win. Got it?

Sleep on that and let it sink in. Time moves on, things change, can you keep up?

For your reading pleasure

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe...rticle4436866/

Originally Posted by Q'smuscle

LOL.... Yea, OK! Still just a camaro that's coming from a Guy with a four door charger! Ask a car enthusiast about a four door charger they'll look at you like you're on crack! There's a reason why the New Dodge dart has the charger taillights too. It's not just a camaro when it's outselling the competition and winning every award possible! Plus lots of Celebes buying them from the ones in the US to ppl in foreign countries. You know a mullet don't fit the 5th Gens. We all know that your wife didn't say that.

BTW can you really call that four door sedan a charger???

The Z/28 is beating Porsche's of all kind and Lamborghini's! I'll call that impressive! Pick a car that can do that under a 100,000!

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=43382

[Zfatuated]

Originally Posted by Thrillz

For your reading pleasure

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe...rticle4436866/

Not sure what your point was with that post? However, I can tell you this: as an American taxpayer, who pays a sh*tload of taxes, if my bailout money financed the Z/28 project then that's a galaxy more payback than I got or will get from the multi-trillions that got pissed-away bailing out the banksers and the entitlement crowd.

Now what were you saying? I couldn't hear you over the sound of the Z/28 exhaust in the video I'm watching

PS- the people who can afford a Z/28 are the ones who pay taxes. The ones whining about it costing too much didn't contribute to the bailout. Take an economics class and learn about how the tax system works in the US

[Moreno1]

Originally Posted by Zfatuated

Now what were you saying? I couldn't hear you over the sound of the Z/28 exhaust in the video I'm watching

[KCdaMan]

Originally Posted by Zfatuated

Not sure what your point was with that post? However, I can tell you this: as an American taxpayer, who pays a sh*tload of taxes, if my bailout money financed the Z/28 project then that's a galaxy more payback than I got or will get from the multi-trillions that got pissed-away bailing out the banksers and the entitlement crowd.

Now what were you saying? I couldn't hear you over the sound of the Z/28 exhaust in the video I'm watching

PS- the people who can afford a Z/28 are the ones who pay taxes. The ones whining about it costing too much didn't contribute to the bailout. Take an economics class and learn about how the tax system works in the US

Speak for yourself!! I PAY MY TAXES TOO AND a sh*t load as well!! YOUR POINT?!?!? The ones whining about the cost also more than likely own a camaro or at least a car, which in turns means they MOST likely work and PAY TAXES! Your statement in false in every way.. how about that economics class?? I dont even post I normally just read and laugh and get others various advice/opinions but your statement wreaks of hypocrisy!

Just say that you're happy to pay the price and taxes for such a car and leave it at that, no need to disparage others as you seem to do here.

[Zfatuated]

Originally Posted by KCdaMan

Speak for yourself!! I PAY MY TAXES TOO AND a sh*t load as well!! YOUR POINT?!?!? The ones whining about the cost also more than likely own a camaro or at least a car, which in turns means they MOST likely work and PAY TAXES! Your statement in false in every way.. how about that economics class?? I dont even post I normally just read and laugh and get others various advice/opinions but your statement wreaks of hypocrisy!

Just say that you're happy to pay the price and taxes for such a car and leave it at that, no need to disparage others as you seem to do here.

Some people will understand my post and others will be offended by it. I knew that when I posted it. We've both had our say, hopefully we can move on

[2cnd chance]

Originally Posted by Zfatuated

Some people will understand my post and others will be offended by it. I knew that when I posted it. We've both had our say, hopefully we can move on

It's all in the perspective. I've been on both sides of the fence and I can say one side is definitely being taken to the cleaners.

[Bhobbs]

Originally Posted by Thrillz

I just have a hard time wrapping my head around 75k for a new camaro. I dunno i think they should have made the 1LE the Z28 leave the ZL1 as the top dog and call it a day. Tell anyone who is not a car enthusiasts you have a 1LE they will look at you with 3 heads but say its a Z28 they know what that is. Is the camaro in any trim level not suppose to be affordable for many not just the elite rich folks? Seems to me GM was just trying to show off but it takes 75K invested in a Camaro to be a crazy track car. For that kind of money it better be stupid impressive. At the end of the day though its still a Camaro. I mean no disrespect but my wife calls the Camaro the official mulletmobile. Perhaps the folks at GM have forgot who exactly buys these type of cars. Just my 2 cents.

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I've met people who thought all Camaros were Z/28s. I've had non enthusiasts ask if my 98 Camaro had a Hemi in it. Saying that GM should have done something different because non enthusiasts can't tell the difference is moronic. The 1LE is a great car but it didn't deserve the Z/28 badge and doing so would have been the lazy way out, which apparently is acceptable to you.

I look at the Z/28 as an engineering exercise more than a regular street car. If you give the engineers free reign and tell the bean counters to shut up and sit down, you get the Z/28.

[Mikebrinda]

Originally Posted by Bhobbs

I've met people who thought all Camaros were Z/28s. I've had non enthusiasts ask if my 98 Camaro had a Hemi in it. Saying that GM should have done something different because non enthusiasts can't tell the difference is moronic. The 1LE is a great car but it didn't deserve the Z/28 badge and doing so would have been the lazy way out, which apparently is acceptable to you.

I look at the Z/28 as an engineering exercise more than a regular street car. If you give the engineers free reign and tell the bean counters to shut up and sit down, you get the Z/28.

Amen to every word above. At a stop light a lady rolled down her window, pointed at the shield on the front fender of my car and asked, "Is that the new Mustang?" I said,

"No, it's the new Camry."

[Goo]

If you take a look at the new information released by Porsche on the Cayman GTS (also a very nice track-ready car) Chevy is right on par plus some... A really good value.

[honor first]

Originally Posted by FINALLYSATISFIED

Z/28 is over priced, period. It's a Camaro no matter which way you look at it. The Copo has justification.

Originally Posted by JMWNERW

I don't understand this double-standard.

it's the same double standard we would hold on a 8 second built civic drag car. if they were charging 25k for a full NHRA spec'd civic running low 8s, we'd say it was overpriced because 'a civic is a civc no matter which way you look at it' even though it is a proportionally equal bang for the buck

[Thrillz]

Originally Posted by Zfatuated

Not sure what your point was with that post? However, I can tell you this: as an American taxpayer, who pays a sh*tload of taxes, if my bailout money financed the Z/28 project then that's a galaxy more payback than I got or will get from the multi-trillions that got pissed-away bailing out the banksers and the entitlement crowd.

Now what were you saying? I couldn't hear you over the sound of the Z/28 exhaust in the video I'm watching

PS- the people who can afford a Z/28 are the ones who pay taxes. The ones whining about it costing too much didn't contribute to the bailout. Take an economics class and learn about how the tax system works in the US

Being able to afford a Z/28 and having an opinion are 2 different things. It just an opinion nothing more its not personal. Last time i checked i thought that was what forums are for to share opinions on the cars we are passionate about.

[Outlander]

When you consider that a loaded up Tahoe or Suburban are in the same price range it makes $75k vehicles almost seem pedestrian.

I wouldn't buy one but I certainly understand the appeal.