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drivingagain · 05-12-2016, 06:44 PM

So this thread has me looking into a another bad ass rifle. Not a huge fan of AK accuracy for longer distances and not a fan of ar-15 caliber size for long distances. Kind of what the military is going through.

Just stumbled upon a Robinson Arms XCR. It's a different gun, with the ergonomics of the M4, the bolt of the AK, and the reliability of the FAL. Takedown is actually easier than the M4, barrels (and calibers) are easily interchangeable, and the stock is a huge improvement -- it folds and offers an adjustable cheekrest, so you can actually get a real cheek weld.

Looks Like a good semi auto all around reliable gun that can use the .308 or 7.62x51 round. There are no mountains here in FL so a good 300 meter knockdown gun is all could ever use here. To me sounds better than a FN Scar. Any one have any experiance with them?

Ok did some research on Robinson ARms and not so great. Good gun design and thought though.

Dizzy82 · 05-12-2016, 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drivingagain

So this thread has me looking into a another bad ass rifle. Not a huge fan of AK accuracy for longer distances and not a fan of ar-15 caliber size for long distances. Kind of what the military is going through.

Just stumbled upon a Robinson Arms XCR. It's a different gun, with the ergonomics of the M4, the bolt of the AK, and the reliability of the FAL. Takedown is actually easier than the M4, barrels (and calibers) are easily interchangeable, and the stock is a huge improvement -- it folds and offers an adjustable cheekrest, so you can actually get a real cheek weld.

Looks Like a good semi auto all around reliable gun that can use the .308 or 7.62x51 round. There are no mountains here in FL so a good 300 meter knockdown gun is all could ever use here. To me sounds better than a FN Scar. Any one have any experiance with them?

Ok did some research on Robinson ARms and not so great. Good gun design and thought though.

sorry, sorry, had to laugh at that. (FN fanboy)

Royal Tiger · 05-13-2016, 05:55 AM

I want a HK-91 (G3) if I could find one, or something similar (FAL?). 5.56x45 is ok, but 7.62x51 is a great round. I'm no fan of 7.62x39.

Dizzy82 · 05-13-2016, 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Royal Tiger

I want a HK-91 (G3) if I could find one, or something similar (FAL?). 5.56x45 is ok, but 7.62x51 is a great round. I'm no fan of 7.62x39.

Unless you want to pay stupid prices for an authentic HK, go with a FAL.

PHXLT1 · 05-13-2016, 01:24 PM

I went with the AK for a few reasons. 1- Reliability, 2 easy to maintain and 3 cost of steel cased ammo. This is my third AK and never had any problems with them. I can't honestly say that about the AR platform. Although great, I did have a issue with a Colt AR and a Daewoo K1 (I think that's what it's called.) The Daewoo had the same function and magazines as the AR. The Daewoo was my favorite rifle but I did have a couple issues with it.

I know now that could have easily been a bad mag or crappy ammo that caused the issues. But you know what they say, you never get a second chance to make a first impression.

Dizzy82 · 05-13-2016, 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PHXLT1

I went with the AK for a few reasons. 1- Reliability, 2 easy to maintain and 3 cost of steel cased ammo. This is my third AK and never had any problems with them. I can't honestly say that about the AR platform. Although great, I did have a issue with a Colt AR and a Daewoo K1 (I think that's what it's called.) The Daewoo had the same function and magazines as the AR. The Daewoo was my favorite rifle but I did have a couple issues with it.

I know now that could have easily been a bad mag or crappy ammo that caused the issues. But you know what they say, you never get a second chance to make a first impression.

When it comes to gun and cars though, a second chance can easily sway ones opinion.

Royal Tiger · 05-13-2016, 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dizzy82

Unless you want to pay stupid prices for an authentic HK, go with a FAL.

Thanks Dizzy.

PHXLT1 · 05-13-2016, 04:29 PM

I guess Century Arms sells a little bit of everything. Not sure about the price or reliability though.

Dizzy82 · 05-13-2016, 05:16 PM

The G3 clones aren't a bad choice either.

Royal Tiger · 05-14-2016, 09:52 AM

How much is a decent FAL these days?

Dizzy82 · 05-14-2016, 10:28 AM

Gunbroker is a good bidding site to get a baseline value on what firearms are going for.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Firearms/BI.aspx?Keywords=fal

Southern Comfort · 05-14-2016, 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dizzy82

Gunbroker is a good bidding site to get a baseline value on what firearms are going for.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Firearms/BI.aspx?Keywords=fal

yes, but read the terms - often they add shipping and 3% if you use a credit card. Not a bad thing - just compare apples to apples when shopping online anywhere. Grabagun is like $6 to ship a rifle.

Royal Tiger · 05-14-2016, 03:34 PM

Thanks for the link.

Gunbroker has Century Arms HK-91 clones for $750. Doesn't sound bad.

Dizzy82 · 05-14-2016, 04:28 PM

I've bought several firearms off of Gunbroker. Just be careful not to let Vegas fever take over though, or you will spend more than you were planning to.

05-12-2016, 06:44 PM	#7197
drivingagain Drives: 2015 Tiger XCX,2016 Camaro 1SS,LBZ! Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Palm Coast, FL Posts: 1,311	So this thread has me looking into a another bad ass rifle. Not a huge fan of AK accuracy for longer distances and not a fan of ar-15 caliber size for long distances. Kind of what the military is going through. Just stumbled upon a Robinson Arms XCR. It's a different gun, with the ergonomics of the M4, the bolt of the AK, and the reliability of the FAL. Takedown is actually easier than the M4, barrels (and calibers) are easily interchangeable, and the stock is a huge improvement -- it folds and offers an adjustable cheekrest, so you can actually get a real cheek weld. Looks Like a good semi auto all around reliable gun that can use the .308 or 7.62x51 round. There are no mountains here in FL so a good 300 meter knockdown gun is all could ever use here. To me sounds better than a FN Scar. Any one have any experiance with them? Ok did some research on Robinson ARms and not so great. Good gun design and thought though. Last edited by drivingagain; 05-12-2016 at 07:19 PM.

05-13-2016, 01:24 PM	#7201
PHXLT1 Drives: black Z28 Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: el mirage Posts: 1,323	I went with the AK for a few reasons. 1- Reliability, 2 easy to maintain and 3 cost of steel cased ammo. This is my third AK and never had any problems with them. I can't honestly say that about the AR platform. Although great, I did have a issue with a Colt AR and a Daewoo K1 (I think that's what it's called.) The Daewoo had the same function and magazines as the AR. The Daewoo was my favorite rifle but I did have a couple issues with it. I know now that could have easily been a bad mag or crappy ammo that caused the issues. But you know what they say, you never get a second chance to make a first impression. __________________ My family 1994 Z28 (mine) 2015 Camaro (wife's) 2015 Silverado (mine!) 54 Belair (wife's) 2004 silverado (daughters)

05-13-2016, 04:29 PM	#7204
PHXLT1 Drives: black Z28 Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: el mirage Posts: 1,323	I guess Century Arms sells a little bit of everything. Not sure about the price or reliability though. Attached Images __________________ My family 1994 Z28 (mine) 2015 Camaro (wife's) 2015 Silverado (mine!) 54 Belair (wife's) 2004 silverado (daughters)

05-13-2016, 05:16 PM	#7205
Dizzy82 Drives: 2011 1LT/RS A6 RJT SuperCharged Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: 87114 Posts: 3,503 View My Garage	The G3 clones aren't a bad choice either. __________________ Power is worthless without control. *The 2nd* protects the 1st.** BMR sub frame brace, BMR tunnel brace, LSR sways, LSR CM ca & tl, Sphon ExD el, GM tower brace, Megan EZ Streets, Goodridge Stainless Steel Braided brake lines, PowerStop D/S rotors & pads, Doug Thorty Ceramic Shorties, Magnaflow x-pipe, MRT V2.0, KICKER PowerStage sub & amp, Infinity speakers & tweeters, Viteese Throttle Controller, Viteese Paddle Shifters, ACS T2 Splitter, ACS T2 Ports/Quad LED lights, VDI kit, Havoc diffuser, IPF ECU/TRANS tuned, IPF/KPE Supercharged. 364RWHP/297RWTQ

05-14-2016, 10:28 AM	#7207
Dizzy82 Drives: 2011 1LT/RS A6 RJT SuperCharged Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: 87114 Posts: 3,503 View My Garage	Gunbroker is a good bidding site to get a baseline value on what firearms are going for. http://www.gunbroker.com/Firearms/BI.aspx?Keywords=fal __________________ Power is worthless without control. *The 2nd* protects the 1st.** BMR sub frame brace, BMR tunnel brace, LSR sways, LSR CM ca & tl, Sphon ExD el, GM tower brace, Megan EZ Streets, Goodridge Stainless Steel Braided brake lines, PowerStop D/S rotors & pads, Doug Thorty Ceramic Shorties, Magnaflow x-pipe, MRT V2.0, KICKER PowerStage sub & amp, Infinity speakers & tweeters, Viteese Throttle Controller, Viteese Paddle Shifters, ACS T2 Splitter, ACS T2 Ports/Quad LED lights, VDI kit, Havoc diffuser, IPF ECU/TRANS tuned, IPF/KPE Supercharged. 364RWHP/297RWTQ

05-13-2016, 05:55 AM	#7199
Royal Tiger Account Suspended Drives: 2013 2SS/RS Convertible Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Lehigh Valley, PA Posts: 3,873	I want a HK-91 (G3) if I could find one, or something similar (FAL?). 5.56x45 is ok, but 7.62x51 is a great round. I'm no fan of 7.62x39.

05-14-2016, 09:52 AM	#7206
Royal Tiger Account Suspended Drives: 2013 2SS/RS Convertible Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Lehigh Valley, PA Posts: 3,873	How much is a decent FAL these days?

05-14-2016, 03:34 PM	#7209
Royal Tiger Account Suspended Drives: 2013 2SS/RS Convertible Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Lehigh Valley, PA Posts: 3,873	Thanks for the link. Gunbroker has Century Arms HK-91 clones for $750. Doesn't sound bad.

05-14-2016, 04:28 PM	#7210
Dizzy82 Drives: 2011 1LT/RS A6 RJT SuperCharged Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: 87114 Posts: 3,503 View My Garage	I've bought several firearms off of Gunbroker. Just be careful not to let Vegas fever take over though, or you will spend more than you were planning to. __________________ Power is worthless without control. *The 2nd* protects the 1st.** BMR sub frame brace, BMR tunnel brace, LSR sways, LSR CM ca & tl, Sphon ExD el, GM tower brace, Megan EZ Streets, Goodridge Stainless Steel Braided brake lines, PowerStop D/S rotors & pads, Doug Thorty Ceramic Shorties, Magnaflow x-pipe, MRT V2.0, KICKER PowerStage sub & amp, Infinity speakers & tweeters, Viteese Throttle Controller, Viteese Paddle Shifters, ACS T2 Splitter, ACS T2 Ports/Quad LED lights, VDI kit, Havoc diffuser, IPF ECU/TRANS tuned, IPF/KPE Supercharged. 364RWHP/297RWTQ

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