ZL1-LSA-MR+LS7+Pedders Coilovers = Z28?

[2cnd chance]

I think it's a value thing. You can always blow another car away by throwing more money at your car. But $ for $ can you blow it (Boss) away? Enter the Z28.

[Sour DeeZ]

GM will not have to worry about mass producing the LS7, because the ZL1 is not going to be mass produced. At least within the first year.

[flopjack]

Originally Posted by Dragoneye

I would give almost anything for a few runs along the Nordschleife...

I believe all they would ask of you is about $20 a day.

[flopjack]

Originally Posted by JusticePete

The ZL1 bone stock will blow peoples in minds in the twisties.

All we want is a Z/28 that is lighter than the SS, faster than the Boss 302, nearly as powerful as the ZL1 without using forced induction, handles better than competing cars without using magnetic shocks and all that for around $40,000. I mean, how hard could it be...

I think that the engineers working on a Z/28 really have their work cut out for them to try to build that car. I don't think it can be done, but the only reason I am saying that this is impossible is because the word itself says, "I'm possible."

I can only hope, but that is a seriously tall task. Obstacles aside, I really do think its coming. T3 Bumblebee and Jay Leno Camaro is the Z/28 hidden in plain sight. And that's hopefully maybe a certainty.

[DGthe3]

Originally Posted by Sour DeeZ

GM will not have to worry about mass producing the LS7, because the ZL1 is not going to be mass produced. At least within the first year.

The ZL1 is going to be mass produced along side SS's and the V6's. Smaller volume, but still mass production.

I'm not sure how the LS7 fits into any of that though

[2cnd chance]

I've said it before the ZL1 is going to be a great car.
My issues with it are:

- the $$$$$
- the FI
- a nontweakable suspension
- too many toys as standard

[Sour DeeZ]

Originally Posted by DGthe3

The ZL1 is going to be mass produced along side SS's and the V6's. Smaller volume, but still mass production.

I'm not sure how the LS7 fits into any of that though

Earlier in this thread. They were talking about the LS7 in the ZL1.

[wildpaws]

Originally Posted by Sour DeeZ

Earlier in this thread. They were talking about the LS7 in the ZL1.

The ZL1 has the LSA and not the LS7 engine. None of which really means anything in relation to a possible Z/28.
Clyde

[TLSTWIN]

Originally Posted by wildpaws

While the original Z/28 was never more powerful than the ZL1, the ZL1 was focused as a 1/4 mi monster while the Z/28 was focused as a track car, two entirely different missions. And a Z/28 would outhandle a ZL1 on the twisties. It remains to be seen how the new ZL1 will handle on the twisties, it has plenty of power and should handle well, but for now that's all on paper and we have not seen what it will do in the real world.
Clyde

You obviously have never driven the new camaro on a track or in the twisties.... This car handles amazingly..... now when you improve upon that with Pedders equipment or the MR system that GM has done and is used in the BEST corvettes..... I would say you better hold on.....

[2cnd chance]

I think he's hypothetically speaking in regards the ZL1 comparing to a possible Z28 design as a track star.

[TLSTWIN]

Originally Posted by 2cnd chance

I think he's hypothetically speaking in regards the ZL1 comparing to a possible Z28 design as a track star.

Not sure if you are responding to my comment above, but what I am responding to his statement that it is only speculation of how well the ZL1 will handle. He said it is all on paper...... when it is not on paper... if the MR system didn't work well, GM would never put it in a CORVETTE..

I think GM would be wasting their time to try and build something LESS than the ZR1..... I guarantee less than 10% of camaro owners do any type of twisty road or road course riding....

GM has already built a specialty car "track car", the ZL1....

The only thing MOST people want is the name Z28..... WHAT IF I TOLD YOU THE Z28 WAS RENAMED AND ALREADY DEBUTED PURE SPECULATIONON MY PART

[JusticePete]

GM has worked on the MR system in the Vette and specialty Holden vehicles for years. It absoultely will work and the ZL1 will be a significant step up from the SS. The question in my mind, is will it be faster than the Pedders USA Camaro

[TLSTWIN]

Originally Posted by JusticePete

GM has worked on the MR system in the Vette and specialty Holden vehicles for years. It absoultely will work and the ZL1 will be a significant step up from the SS. The question in my mind, is will it be faster than the Pedders USA Camaro

I sure wish they would have used your fully adjustable coil overs

Hopefully you have been able to work on stuff for the ZL1

[2cnd chance]

Originally Posted by TLSTWIN

Not sure if you are responding to my comment above, but what I am responding to his statement that it is only speculation of how well the ZL1 will handle. He said it is all on paper...... when it is not on paper... if the MR system didn't work well, GM would never put it in a CORVETTE..

I think GM would be wasting their time to try and build something LESS than the ZR1..... I guarantee less than 10% of camaro owners do any type of twisty road or road course riding....

GM has already built a specialty car "track car", the ZL1....

The only thing MOST people want is the name Z28..... WHAT IF I TOLD YOU THE Z28 WAS RENAMED AND ALREADY DEBUTED PURE SPECULATIONON MY PART

Check out my post #481
ZL1 = ZR1
Z28 = Z06
Many of us are looking for a Z06 design Camaro, a Boss competitor not a loaded GT car.
And yes the Z28 WAS and now IS the ZL1, because they built a ZL1 not a Z28.