Cost to safely run 10s - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

big dave · 09-18-2014, 06:38 PM

I see a lot of packages out there that offer decent performance gains but seldom do I see must have pieces like bigger reservoirs or heat exchangers. I'm looking for a ballpark figure of what it really takes to run the number in these cars while still remaining reliable. I'm guessing it will take 610 rwhp in an a6 to run 10s. Is it possible to do it without headers?

white ZL1 · 09-18-2014, 07:16 PM

My car put down 605rwhp on ADM's dyno with the mods in my sig and I've got a handful of 11.0 slips during Texas summer.
Car easily has a 10.8x in it as it continues to cool off.
Full weight. 93 octane.

URBAN LEGEND · 09-18-2014, 07:38 PM

Get a Hellcat. Those run 10s.

Baer383 · 09-18-2014, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by URBAN LEGEND

Get a Hellcat. Those run 10s.

kinpin · 09-18-2014, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by URBAN LEGEND

Get a Hellcat. Those run 10s.

ya just don't try to make a turn at the end of the strip.....

big dave · 09-18-2014, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by URBAN LEGEND

Get a Hellcat. Those run 10s.

It would probably be the smart thing to do but since I already have the ZL1...

The hellcat thing has been beaten to death, I'm just wondering just how much it would take to do it with the Camaro. I luv my car, but for me it's lacking in power. The only thing I would've traded it for would've been a c6 z06...until I took a ride in one. Fast car no doubt, but just getting a little dated.

96MrBass · 09-18-2014, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by URBAN LEGEND

Get a Hellcat. Those run 10s.

Still don't want to sell yours yet?

hotlap · 09-18-2014, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by big dave

I see a lot of packages out there that offer decent performance gains but seldom do I see must have pieces like bigger reservoirs or heat exchangers. I'm looking for a ballpark figure of what it really takes to run the number in these cars while still remaining reliable. I'm guessing it will take 610 rwhp in an a6 to run 10s. Is it possible to do it without headers?

I haven't done it yet but I'm most confortable going the Lingenfelter route. I'm considering upgrading the SC cooling too

623 rear wheel horsepower 617 rear wheel lbs ft of torque. 2 year warranty

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This package gives you additional power over our other supercharger upgrade packages while maintaining a safe level of boost & supercharger RPM. The GT9 camshaft has an excellent sound quality and will not degrade the vehicles drivability or reliability

https://www.lingenfelter.com/engine-...package-700-hp

URBAN LEGEND · 09-18-2014, 08:08 PM

I think driver ed first in order to maximize your potential. Unless you are good there already. Then other mods.

hotlap · 09-18-2014, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by URBAN LEGEND

I think driver ed first in order to maximize your potential. Unless you are good there already. Then other mods.

I'm signed up for the next HPDE level 1 school at Road America and have made a few outings at the 1/4 track to work on launching it.

I agree with Big Dave that it's very drama free and needs more power. I keep my cars a long time so its worth putting the money into

Vick415 · 09-18-2014, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by big dave

I see a lot of packages out there that offer decent performance gains but seldom do I see must have pieces like bigger reservoirs or heat exchangers. I'm looking for a ballpark figure of what it really takes to run the number in these cars while still remaining reliable. I'm guessing it will take 610 rwhp in an a6 to run 10s. Is it possible to do it without headers?

My A6 ZL1 goes in next week for heads/cams and few other bolt-on upgrades. Leaving bottom end as-is. This setup is already yielding over 720-730rwhp with few other builds I have seen from the shop keeper. Time will tell what these numbers will mean on the strip.

white1LE · 09-18-2014, 09:04 PM

ADM or LPE 700 package. Will not be disappointed!!!

Stephen12ZL1 · 09-18-2014, 09:29 PM

dynojet 590-600 rwhp in good air will get you a 10 sec pass in an A6. Oh, big dave has driving skills...did you guys read his signature?

hognutz · 09-18-2014, 10:27 PM

I have an m6 so it is a bit different for me but if I were you I would do the following.

1. id850's
2. 9.55 or 10 lower ring ( or some combination of upper ad lower like 8.6 lower 2.55 upper if you do the upper I would port the snout wile your there)
3. longtubes kooks, arh, stainless works or power (catless)
4. ron davis hx or super chiller
5. good tune
6. mikey thomson drag radials (skinny's up front ifyou can swing it)

you running pretty sweet times stock so I would think the recipe above would makes 10'sr happen almost every pass.

the cost of all that varies because the parts vary. 4k-6k if you do your own work depending on choices

09-18-2014, 06:38 PM	#1
big dave Drives: 2017 ZL1 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Maryland Posts: 1,052	Cost to safely run 10s I see a lot of packages out there that offer decent performance gains but seldom do I see must have pieces like bigger reservoirs or heat exchangers. I'm looking for a ballpark figure of what it really takes to run the number in these cars while still remaining reliable. I'm guessing it will take 610 rwhp in an a6 to run 10s. Is it possible to do it without headers? __________________ '17 ZL1 10.99@129 stock. 4225# raceweight. Best 60'- 1.66 on factory tires. 10.48@132 E50, intake and tune. 4270 lbs https://youtu.be/EyHtdH9XOkY https://youtu.be/Lcu41obbTf8 '13 ZL1 BRM A6. 11.591 @ 119.2 factory stock with a 1.68 60'! Best stock mph 121.8. 11.29 @ 123 RotoFab, drag radials and skinnies. 4360# raceweight. http://youtu.be/yggIA3C_kkA 2014... back to stock http://youtu.be/spQLaTWbThs 2013... stock & RotoFab

09-18-2014, 07:38 PM	#3
URBAN LEGEND Drives: 20 X3M CP & 19 ZL1 1LE A10 Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Brenham, TX Posts: 3,517	Get a Hellcat. Those run 10s. __________________ 🔺22 RS E TRON GT 🔺21 Model S Plaid

09-18-2014, 08:08 PM	#9
URBAN LEGEND Drives: 20 X3M CP & 19 ZL1 1LE A10 Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Brenham, TX Posts: 3,517	I think driver ed first in order to maximize your potential. Unless you are good there already. Then other mods. __________________ 🔺22 RS E TRON GT 🔺21 Model S Plaid

09-18-2014, 09:04 PM	#12
white1LE Drives: 2013 Camaro ZL1 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Dubuque, IA Posts: 880	ADM or LPE 700 package. Will not be disappointed!!! __________________ 13 ZL1 A6 LSX 427 with AGP Twin Turbos, E85 and Flex Fuel. Built and tuned by ADM Performance 1000rwhp

09-18-2014, 09:29 PM	#13
Stephen12ZL1 Drives: '21 ZLE A10 Join Date: May 2012 Location: Mechanicsville, VA Posts: 6,808	dynojet 590-600 rwhp in good air will get you a 10 sec pass in an A6. Oh, big dave has driving skills...did you guys read his signature? __________________ '21 ZLE A10 Wild Cherry PDR 2:00.78 VIR Full 10.68@131.69 1.68 60' '17 ZL1 A10 Mosaic Black PDR/Nav 2:03.08 VIR Full 11.003@129.2 1.75 (sold) '15 Z/28 #325 Black a/c & stereo. 2:10.1 VIR Full (sold) '12 ZL1 A6 Black 10.52@131 1.55 60' 2:13 VIR Full (sold)

09-18-2014, 07:16 PM	#2
white ZL1 Drives: none Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: DFW area Posts: 1,844	My car put down 605rwhp on ADM's dyno with the mods in my sig and I've got a handful of 11.0 slips during Texas summer. Car easily has a 10.8x in it as it continues to cool off. Full weight. 93 octane.

09-18-2014, 10:27 PM	#14
hognutz Drives: 2013 ZL1 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: tangent or Posts: 2,984	I have an m6 so it is a bit different for me but if I were you I would do the following. 1. id850's 2. 9.55 or 10 lower ring ( or some combination of upper ad lower like 8.6 lower 2.55 upper if you do the upper I would port the snout wile your there) 3. longtubes kooks, arh, stainless works or power (catless) 4. ron davis hx or super chiller 5. good tune 6. mikey thomson drag radials (skinny's up front ifyou can swing it) you running pretty sweet times stock so I would think the recipe above would makes 10'sr happen almost every pass. the cost of all that varies because the parts vary. 4k-6k if you do your own work depending on choices __________________ shopping for 2017+1le or zl1 2009 CTS-V -sold 2015 Hellcat-sold 2013 ZL1 -sold 2007 Z06- sold 2014 Chrysler 300 2011 Duramax 8" lift, deleted tuned