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Aragorn · 06-29-2020, 10:18 AM

Personally, I love those videos. The content, while not super professional, is very entertaining. And like mentioned above, can’t beat free. Lastly they have a couple great videos of mustang versus Camaro.

Camaro_QC · 06-29-2020, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Petrol Head

Oh according to many I know I'm quite the moron.

Just like everything, YT started out as a free avenue for amateurs and pretty much anyone and everyone to put a video about anything they wanted, and anyone could watch it for free without ads, overproduction, and nonsense.

Of course, just like everything, the bean counters take over and it's all garbage with little substance now.

Flame me away, I would expect nothing less.

The funny thing with YouTube is that you can choose the content you are looking at. I personally only watch channels that are run by normal people filming themselves in their house and creating some nice content. Whenever a channel becomes highly scripted and only looking for the money but putting 75% of the video length with ads, I simply unsubscribe.

USAFS197 · 06-29-2020, 02:25 PM

As of late, Throttle House has been producing some of the nicest, consistent FREE content on YouTube for a while. While they aren't trying to take on the super-serious-journalist perspective, they will actually test the cars under varying conditions. Just as the original video showcased, the Demon, or even Hellcats in general, are notoriously difficult to launch hard on the street.

You can bitch, you can moan, you can stomp your feet, etc., but not only was it thoroughly explained that the conditions were not ideal, even if it was, this is literally a singular performance metric and frankly, this isn't the 1960's anymore. I sure as shit hope that some of you guys consider literally any other viable metric to a vehicles performance or practicality than just drag racing.

What do you expect from an old Mercedes chassis? I think Dodge has done well with the car but, it's time to retire the platform.

enzia35 · 06-29-2020, 03:45 PM

Their cold open for the Mustang Camaro 4cyl shootout is hilarious.

Wyzz Kydd · 06-29-2020, 05:15 PM

I like their videos. I'm not surprised the Vette won from the 1/4 mile.

ChevyRules · 06-29-2020, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by enzia35

Their cold open for the Mustang Camaro 4cyl shootout is hilarious.

So far my favorite cold opens from them have been the CT6-V Blackwing and the ZL1 1LE vs GT500 vs Redeye review.

samurai · 06-30-2020, 05:14 AM

I liked their content. But they ruined their credibility with their "C8 has horrible understeer" video. The owner of the tested C8 spoke out on the MECF forum, the car had a faulty TPM sensor and was not able to go into any other drive mode than tour.

So they knowingly tested a faulty car that can not use sport or trackmode to get views with their understeer comments. This is really bad journalism just begging for views.

USAFS197 · 06-30-2020, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by samurai

I liked their content. But they ruined their credibility with their "C8 has horrible understeer" video. The owner of the tested C8 spoke out on the MECF forum, the car had a faulty TPM sensor and was not able to go into any other drive mode than tour.

So they knowingly tested a faulty car that can not use sport or trackmode to get views with their understeer comments. This is really bad journalism just begging for views.

I'm not entirely sure that's their fault, per se. Even the venerable Randy Pobst complained about the C8's understeer and the absurd alignment required to curtail said issue. I highly doubt a mode selection via magnetic ride suspension would solve this issue.

thegoat · 06-30-2020, 09:35 AM

Lol

ariZona28 · 06-30-2020, 10:58 AM

Kinda apples and oranges comparison but never the less entertaining. I finally saw a C8 (white) in person the other day. I was sceptical at first, now I'm all in!

BMR Sales · 06-30-2020, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by thegoat

Anyone with a brain will know the demon will wreck a base c8 if not in the hands of morons

and anyone that is trying to top speed a car ( on Video) without a Helmet confirms they are morons!

Iron Lung Jimmy · 06-30-2020, 05:32 PM

The C8 launches HARD. Corvetteforum is full of regular owners posting fairly repeatable 2.8 sec 0-60 times.

Theoretically the Demon is quicker but it is more difficult to do. Get it right (takes practice) and you are fast. Otherwise you get smoked by the C8.

On the street the Corvette is a formidable opponent for any car.

StingrayblueSS · 06-30-2020, 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ariZona28

Kinda apples and oranges comparison but never the less entertaining. I finally saw a C8 (white) in person the other day. I was sceptical at first, now I'm all in!

They look so much better in person. We were at the Corvette Museum Saturday and I was blown away.

'10CamaroDude · 07-01-2020, 05:50 AM

Dodge uses way too much torque management. There was a race with a Hellcat,
against a Camaro and Mustang. The girl driving the Hellcat bitched about the
torque management. I had a Charger, and you need to tune it out. I had a 2000
Avenger ES. You could feel the ECU back off the fuel on shifts at WOT. I used
to be a hardcore Dodge guy, but they ruin their cars with way over protective
torque management.

The Demon and Hellcat need a DSG Transmission, with programmable TQM.

IF they would have ONLY turned out the TQM on that Demon, it would be a whole
different race. Even with launch control and those settings, there's still too much
TQM on the Dodge. My Mustang, doesn't have any that I can feel, and neither
does my Camaro.

I would still buy a Challenger if I had a Garage for it, and tune it out.

On the Avenger, there was an actual signal wire for TQM between the trans and
ECU; I only had to hook up an interrupt switch to turn it off. It had to be tuned
out of the Charger.

06-29-2020, 02:25 PM	#17
USAFS197 Drives: 2018 Audi TT RS Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Navarre, Florida Posts: 1,915	As of late, Throttle House has been producing some of the nicest, consistent FREE content on YouTube for a while. While they aren't trying to take on the super-serious-journalist perspective, they will actually test the cars under varying conditions. Just as the original video showcased, the Demon, or even Hellcats in general, are notoriously difficult to launch hard on the street. You can bitch, you can moan, you can stomp your feet, etc., but not only was it thoroughly explained that the conditions were not ideal, even if it was, this is literally a singular performance metric and frankly, this isn't the 1960's anymore. I sure as shit hope that some of you guys consider literally any other viable metric to a vehicles performance or practicality than just drag racing. What do you expect from an old Mercedes chassis? I think Dodge has done well with the car but, it's time to retire the platform. __________________ 2018 Audi TT ▊RS 2.4X 0-60, 1.6X 60', 120+mph 1/8th, 4.XX 60-130, 150+mph traps on 255/35/18 R888R tires on the street (unprepped). 2019 Audi RS3 About as fast as the TT RS 2019 Camaro ZL1 1LE Sold 2018 Camaro SS 1LE Sold 2019 Corvette Z06 Sold 2021 Charger Hellcat Redeye Widebody Sold

06-29-2020, 03:45 PM	#18
enzia35 Drives: '16 Garnet Red 1SS Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: College Station, TX Posts: 3,450	Their cold open for the Mustang Camaro 4cyl shootout is hilarious. __________________ '16 Camaro 1SS '18 Miata GT Gone: '01 Camaro, '14 Camaro, '90 Miata

06-30-2020, 05:14 AM	#21
samurai Drives: C8 Corvette Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Germany Posts: 641	I liked their content. But they ruined their credibility with their "C8 has horrible understeer" video. The owner of the tested C8 spoke out on the MECF forum, the car had a faulty TPM sensor and was not able to go into any other drive mode than tour. So they knowingly tested a faulty car that can not use sport or trackmode to get views with their understeer comments. This is really bad journalism just begging for views. __________________

06-30-2020, 10:58 AM	#24
ariZona28 Give speed a chance Drives: 2015 Camaro 2LS, 2015 Camaro Z/28 Join Date: Nov 2019 Location: Mesa, Az Posts: 2,222	Kinda apples and oranges comparison but never the less entertaining. I finally saw a C8 (white) in person the other day. I was sceptical at first, now I'm all in! __________________ 2LS: a TREMENDOUS machine. Z/28: it's a BIT MORE POWERFUL, of course.

06-29-2020, 10:18 AM	#15
Aragorn Account Suspended Drives: Camaro SS 1LE Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: Phoenix Posts: 1,538	Personally, I love those videos. The content, while not super professional, is very entertaining. And like mentioned above, can’t beat free. Lastly they have a couple great videos of mustang versus Camaro.

06-29-2020, 05:15 PM	#19
Wyzz Kydd Banned Drives: 2018 Camaro SS1 1LE Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Georgia Posts: 1,595	I like their videos. I'm not surprised the Vette won from the 1/4 mile.

06-30-2020, 09:35 AM	#23
thegoat Drives: 6th gen Join Date: May 2020 Location: Earth Posts: 77	Lol

06-30-2020, 05:32 PM	#26
Iron Lung Jimmy Drives: Iron Lung, Jimmy Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Louisiana Posts: 1,447	The C8 launches HARD. Corvetteforum is full of regular owners posting fairly repeatable 2.8 sec 0-60 times. Theoretically the Demon is quicker but it is more difficult to do. Get it right (takes practice) and you are fast. Otherwise you get smoked by the C8. On the street the Corvette is a formidable opponent for any car.

07-01-2020, 05:50 AM	#28
'10CamaroDude Account Suspended Drives: 2010 Camaro LS Join Date: Nov 2019 Location: Pgh Posts: 739 View My Garage	Dodge uses way too much torque management. There was a race with a Hellcat, against a Camaro and Mustang. The girl driving the Hellcat bitched about the torque management. I had a Charger, and you need to tune it out. I had a 2000 Avenger ES. You could feel the ECU back off the fuel on shifts at WOT. I used to be a hardcore Dodge guy, but they ruin their cars with way over protective torque management. The Demon and Hellcat need a DSG Transmission, with programmable TQM. IF they would have ONLY turned out the TQM on that Demon, it would be a whole different race. Even with launch control and those settings, there's still too much TQM on the Dodge. My Mustang, doesn't have any that I can feel, and neither does my Camaro. I would still buy a Challenger if I had a Garage for it, and tune it out. On the Avenger, there was an actual signal wire for TQM between the trans and ECU; I only had to hook up an interrupt switch to turn it off. It had to be tuned out of the Charger.