What's the difference between long tube and shorty? - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

Zachreed89 · 12-28-2013, 09:51 AM

I get the basics on what the difference is but performance wise would spending the extra on long tube be worth it or does the shorty give just as much extra power? Thanks

mikeyg36 · 12-28-2013, 09:54 AM

Shorties are more for sound and not power. They add a little bit, but it's not worth it compared to LTs. Go with a good set of long tubes and a tune from Matt@FSP.

CFD · 12-28-2013, 10:24 AM

A couple of inches.

Depends if you're giving or receiving, doesn't matter much to the giver but if your on the receiving end a couple of inches makes a big difference

Couldn't help myself, I'm bored babysitting my CNC.

steven2680 · 12-28-2013, 10:28 AM

kidd79 · 12-28-2013, 10:32 AM

With a set of long tubes, cat delete pipes, 3" axle back, cold air intake, and a good tune, I've gained approximately 50hp at the wheels in my car. Long tube headers will give you more power, and sound great if you like to hear your car. There are a few draw backs though. A good set is expensive. Have to get the car tuned after which can get pricy. A lot of dealerships will try to void your warranty if you have one, and install headers.. many many variables to think about. But if you just want it to sound good..get shorty. It's all in what you want to do with the car. Have a goal in mind, and stick with it..until it changes..lol

Apex Motorsports · 12-28-2013, 11:00 AM

A good set of shorty headers will give you some gain (15rwhp ~) but long tube headers can easily double that. It is definitely worth the extra coin.

LeanPocket · 12-28-2013, 11:04 AM

I'd allocate that money elsewhere. The power, if any, just doesn't justify the time invested In installing them.

aggieguy13 · 12-28-2013, 11:53 AM

ported tb, and hf cats will get you the same/more power as LT's

I just put on Solo HF cats i got from ^^^^^ Chase, and i have BBK offroad xpipe. no mufflers. and guarentee its meaner than a good deal of header installed cars. granted. Headers w/ HF cats and a cam is a pure "orgasm in a tube" and will sound better. but the cats are amazing. clip to come soon

JCunningham · 12-29-2013, 12:44 AM

0 hp gain from ported tb. Better throttle response is all you get. you will get some power from hi flow cats but both combined will not give you the power of lt headers. you have to put hi flow cats on with the headers the stock cats won't fit.

MarylandSpeed · 12-29-2013, 02:38 PM

LT's are the most effective bolt on you can buy for your car. Customers and our experience shows they make 35-40 rwhp which is 10% more power on these cars. All the other bolt ons like CAI, ported TB, shorty headers, axle/catback are worth 0-maybe 12 rwhp.

12-28-2013, 09:51 AM	#1
Zachreed89 Drives: 2010 camaro SS Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Killeen, Tx Posts: 50 View My Garage	What's the difference between long tube and shorty? I get the basics on what the difference is but performance wise would spending the extra on long tube be worth it or does the shorty give just as much extra power? Thanks

12-28-2013, 10:32 AM	#5
kidd79 Drives: 2010 2SS Silver Ice Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: KENTON TN Posts: 55 View My Garage	With a set of long tubes, cat delete pipes, 3" axle back, cold air intake, and a good tune, I've gained approximately 50hp at the wheels in my car. Long tube headers will give you more power, and sound great if you like to hear your car. There are a few draw backs though. A good set is expensive. Have to get the car tuned after which can get pricy. A lot of dealerships will try to void your warranty if you have one, and install headers.. many many variables to think about. But if you just want it to sound good..get shorty. It's all in what you want to do with the car. Have a goal in mind, and stick with it..until it changes..lol Attached Images __________________ Seek first to understand, than to be understood.

12-28-2013, 11:04 AM	#7
LeanPocket Drives: 2010 2SS Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Corpus Christi TX Posts: 634	I'd allocate that money elsewhere. The power, if any, just doesn't justify the time invested In installing them. __________________ Build Thread

12-28-2013, 11:53 AM	#8
aggieguy13 Drives: 2013 SS/RS VR 1LE Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: MCKINNEY,TX Posts: 1,278 View My Garage	ported tb, and hf cats will get you the same/more power as LT's I just put on Solo HF cats i got from ^^^^^ Chase, and i have BBK offroad xpipe. no mufflers. and guarentee its meaner than a good deal of header installed cars. granted. Headers w/ HF cats and a cam is a pure "orgasm in a tube" and will sound better. but the cats are amazing. clip to come soon __________________ 2013 SS/RS 1LE VR-Backup System, SOLO Perforsance HF Cats, Muffler Delete, BBK Off-road X-pipe 2002 35th Aniversary SLP SS-Sold

12-29-2013, 12:44 AM	#9
JCunningham Drives: 2017 2SS M6 Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: WNY Posts: 7,070	0 hp gain from ported tb. Better throttle response is all you get. you will get some power from hi flow cats but both combined will not give you the power of lt headers. you have to put hi flow cats on with the headers the stock cats won't fit. __________________ real ZL1 wheels and brakes, 285/305 Michelin Pilot Super Sports, Pray ported Intake manifold, Soler Throttle Body, Rotofab intake, EFI Tuning Flex fuel kit, full American Racing Headers Exhaust, 1 7/8" w/ cats H pipe and mufflers. Full 1LE suspension, with BMR adjustable sway bars and links, GM aluminum cradle bushings, Hurst shifter with lighter reverse spring, TWM shifter knob, Tick level 1 transmission. I should have bought a ZL1

12-28-2013, 09:54 AM	#2
mikeyg36 Drives: 2015 Z/28 #533 Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: NY Posts: 6,731	Shorties are more for sound and not power. They add a little bit, but it's not worth it compared to LTs. Go with a good set of long tubes and a tune from Matt@FSP.

12-28-2013, 10:24 AM	#3
CFD Drives: 2SS/RS L99 BLACK Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Franklin , MA Posts: 6,696	A couple of inches. Depends if you're giving or receiving, doesn't matter much to the giver but if your on the receiving end a couple of inches makes a big difference Couldn't help myself, I'm bored babysitting my CNC.

12-28-2013, 10:28 AM	#4
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12-28-2013, 11:00 AM	#6
Apex Motorsports Drives: 2000 Camaro SS Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Louisville, Ky. Posts: 25,179	A good set of shorty headers will give you some gain (15rwhp ~) but long tube headers can easily double that. It is definitely worth the extra coin.

12-29-2013, 02:38 PM	#10
MarylandSpeed Account Suspended Drives: 2012 ZL1 & 2010 2SS/RS Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Maryland Posts: 3,378	LT's are the most effective bolt on you can buy for your car. Customers and our experience shows they make 35-40 rwhp which is 10% more power on these cars. All the other bolt ons like CAI, ported TB, shorty headers, axle/catback are worth 0-maybe 12 rwhp.