Nelson Racing Engine X-Ram Intake

[LeanPocket]

Originally Posted by BlaqWhole

I'm sorry but 30 minutes of blah blah blah blah vs FAST intake which has shown their gains on a bone stock LS3 engine...I'll go with the FAST intake. Because all the talking and explaining in the world means nothing if this intake manifold costs $1500 and makes no gains. Like my father once said, an empty wagon makes a lot of noise. If they can sit here making videos with all these grand explanations and flow tests and X cfm and so on, then they can strap it to a stock LS3 and show us some real proof of what it does in an A to B comparison. Since they haven't yet, I'm assuming its just a bunch of talk.

They did stick it on a complete bone stock ls3, and it made 498hp on the engine dyno.

If you actually watch the video, it'll explain why Xram flows better.

[62nalide]

When will it be out for sale?

[BlaqWhole]

Originally Posted by LeanPocket

They did stick it on a complete bone stock ls3, and it made 498hp on the engine dyno.

If you actually watch the video, it'll explain why Xram flows better.

Yea and that so called dyno test was not an actual A to B comparison. Go back to page 3 and you'll see where I questioned that. And I'm not saying it doesn't "flow" better. I'm asking how this flow translates into hp, tq, or overall performance. Because all the flow testing in the world means nothing if the intake doesn't actually make any improvement. And I'm saying that FAST dynoed a completely stock engine, then installed their intake manifold, and re-tested that same engine, and gave us the numbers. This manifold for all the hype and all the weeks that they've been talking about it has yet to do that. They simply did a dyno, spat out some numbers without any details on the engine or the tune or any other mods, and that was it. And also factor in the aftermarket TB...whatever gains (if any) were made, then some credit will have to go to the TB.

[VADER SS L99]

Was there ever a baseline dyno run done on this motor being all stock including air box, tune, manifilds, intake manifold, ect..??? If so could I get a link or page number in this thread please. Thanks.

[BlaqWhole]

Originally Posted by VADER SS L99

Was there ever a baseline dyno run done on this motor being all stock including air box, tune, manifilds, intake manifold, ect..??? If so could I get a link or page number in this thread please. Thanks.

They never did a baseline. And more than likely, custom tuning played a good part in the numbers they claimed to have gotten.

[14pilot]

Update on FB:

Engine for Mathais in Belgium .
692 ft lb Lsx with our Nre X-ram more to go yet. Its a beast pump gas hydraulic cam streeter.Very Very happy with this package so far.Have a great weekend to everyone
Tom Nelson

[revived]

Better off saving for a sc. This intake is dumb big.

[hapisok]

what is the purpose of 2 throttle bodies when all the air flows through the same bottle neck where the inlet pipe splits. TB's already create turbulence…wouldn't you have better airflow if it were not being deflected just as it enters the plenum?

[driyac]

Originally Posted by hapisok

what is the purpose of 2 throttle bodies when all the air flows through the same bottle neck where the inlet pipe splits. TB's already create turbulence…wouldn't you have better airflow if it were not being deflected just as it enters the plenum?

Double throttle bodies allow for more Air to enter. However, the Camaro's ECM hates and will not play with dual electronic throttle bodies. So he will now have that to contend with as well.

Edit: right now he is using manual cable driven throttle bodies

[Mean Green Z28]

Wonder if they can do a slaved throttle body that mimics the movements of the main body ... then run speed density or some way of adding 2 mafs or doubling the signal of one maf

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[Moreno1]

OZMO now offers a module that allows the ECM to run two TBs.

This is off OZMO's Facebook page.

"Congratulations to New Era Performance. They just made 927rwhp on a Camaro using their supercharger kit and an OZMO Twin TB Controller."

[14pilot]

Originally Posted by Nathan Moreno

OZMO now offers a module that allows the ECM to run two TBs.

Yes ! And NRE is working directly with OZMO in using this module on the X-Ram Camaro ECU Platform. OEM fly-by wire Twin TBs FTW !

Don't think twins would need TB porting - LOL !

[1989GTA]

"Don't think twins would need TB porting - LOL !"

So true.

[Mean Green Z28]

NICE!

does it use two mafs?

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