03-27-2012, 01:23 PM | #29 |
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The hood sets the two apart enough, and I would bet the exhaust will be differant as well. The 1LE will help fill in a void between the SS and the ZL1 and have a warrantry to boot. When we first heard about the future
ZL1, there were many on this forums hoping for a Z28 for around the 40K price. Sounds like this is going to be the answer for those, unless of course you were also interested in loosing another 300 lbs and a LS7 engine. Oh well wishfull thinking I suppose. But this car will fill a need, and if your going to invest R & D in the ZL1, you might as well use some of it for the other models in the family tree.
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People always brig up the cost of the ZL-1 then state they could add all that for less but in reality you would struggle to add all ot if for less. you may be able to add the part you like for less.
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Don't get me wrong, I'm all about making your Camaro the way you want it to look and who cares what others think but like I said, the ZL1 should be a little more exclusive. If GM had developed new wheels for the 1LE instead of using the SSX/ZL1 wheels, then I would have no problems at all. At least then it would not look like a ZL1 at first glance. But in the end its still a Camaro and that's all that should matter
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03-27-2012, 02:47 PM | #33 |
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Especiially since the LSA's internals are not forged. If you wanted a ZL! and then upgrade the blower, you would probably better served buying the 1Le and putting an aftermarket blower on it. Both will require a new shortblock if you want to get silly..
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03-27-2012, 02:48 PM | #34 |
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"While they were working on the 1LE, GM’s engineers also grabbed everything they could out of the Camaro ZL1‘s parts bin, so the 1LE also gets ZL1-spec tires, ZL1-based wheels, the ZL1′s track-oriented fuel pump and its wheel bearings, toe links and rear shock mounts. It also gets the ZL1′s suede-esque shift lever and flat-bottom steering wheel, just for kicks". (Web Review of 1LE)
We all know most people will mistake a ZL1 for any other Camaro. Those same people will mistake a Shelby for just a Mustang and a M3 for just a BMW. To me thats really not the point, non car people are non car people for a reason, they could care less. I just feel some of the ZL1's uniqueness has been lost by sharing so many of its specific parts. |
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I dont understand why they dont start with a base model camaro and from there you could check what you wanted. Understandably certain features would require certain additonal items. For me i cant stand the front bumper on the v8 cars. Why cant i buy a v6 car with a v8?
I think it would be nice if i liked these wheels and this engine I could actually buy that instead of just offering it in certain trims. And then i am stuck with certain options. |
03-27-2012, 03:40 PM | #36 |
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I think the models look different enough. The MATTE BLACK hood and the RED BRAKE CALIPERS on the 1LE really stand out to me enough that even if I weren't a "CAR GUY" I would know that the ZL1 is not a 1LE and vice versa. Once on the inside, the fact that the stitching is "GREY" and not "RED" like the ZL1 also distinguishes the model and there of course is the STICHED "ZL1" logo on the headrests in our cars. Even the brakes on the ZL1 are stronger 6 piston compared to 4 piston on the 1LE.
I'm glad Chevy made the 1LE without the MAG RIDE SUSPENSION and it's priced very competitively at UNDER $40k. It's crazy that it pulls over 1g without the magnetic ride suspension in such a heavy car still! |
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Your forgot the fact that ZL1 has PTM and the 1LE doesn't. |
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03-27-2012, 03:56 PM | #38 | |
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I am 100% positive anybody who knows anything about a 5th gen will never confuse your car with an LS. If your concerned with the general public not knowing you have the uber model. Well. your out of luck on that one as the general public half the time thinks a 5th gen is a Mustang or a Challenger or god knows what else. And lastly, if it was an LS model with the many vast power and handling upgrades in a ZL1 yeah i will take it for a reasonable price. Your getting a crap load more than just an LSA for that money. |
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03-27-2012, 04:03 PM | #39 |
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Did you buy your SS so other people could know it was a V8? Instead of what it's made for, extra power.
IMO most people won't visually know the difference between any camaro, including the zl1. Hell, a large portion of people think it's a mustang. But they definately will hear and feel the difference, which is what you are paying for anyway.
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Actually the more under the general radar the better. I like the fact that it will be a little stealthy. May get to surprise a few more people.
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