Start / Stop Technology? Just Wondering...

suplex · 05-31-2015, 09:23 AM

As we all know there are cars now that when you pull up to a red light and stop your car, the engine actually turns itself off. Then, when you press on the gas petal to go again, the engine starts and off you go.

I have not heard yet if the 6th Gen Camaro's will have something like that or not, but I really hope they don't...or if they do...that it can be turned on or off according to what the driver prefers.

The reason I was wondering is because I believe the V6 LT's to shut down two of the cylinders when under light throttle so as to save gas and the whole reason for Start / Stop technology is for the same thing.

I just can't imagine it not being very annoying to have your engine turn off and on several times when driving anywhere.

I will say this though, these new Camaro's have a lot in common with Cadillac's and so far I haven't heard of any "Start/Stop" Caddy's yet either.

Just wondering if anyone else has heard of it, and what you think of cars that have it.

Thanks for your time.

HDRDTD · 05-31-2015, 09:42 AM

When I bought my 2015 Malibu. the standard 2.5 4 cyc NA engine DID come with Start/Stop, but the optional 2.0 4cyl turbo does NOT have start/stop, and this is the same turbo 4 that'll be in the new Camaro.

I have no idea about the 6cyl or 8cyl.

Angrybird 12 · 05-31-2015, 09:52 AM

Since cylinder deactivation is mentioned and auto start - stop has not, I am betting it is not on the Camaro.

Geno · 05-31-2015, 10:51 AM

I would think it would be a real pain in start and stop traffic on a 90 degree day or when the temp was 10 below 0.

Angrybird 12 · 05-31-2015, 10:54 AM

Do these cars have electric Ac compressors? How do you stay cool in traffic if it shuts off the engine every time you stop for more than a few seconds.

suplex · 05-31-2015, 12:10 PM

These are all great points people are making. It's really about the only car technology I am not crazy about (Start/Stop). I think it's a pretty safe bet the Camaro won't have it, as it would have been somewhere online where they'd be talking about it.

One thing I love that the new Cadillac CT6 is going to have is called "Four Wheel Steering". That's when the back wheels move slightly to the Left if you steer the car to the Right (and Vice Versa), I WISH the Camaro's had that!!!

Stex · 05-31-2015, 04:57 PM

[QUOTE=suplex;8457405]These are all great points people are making. It's really about the only car technology I am not crazy about (Start/Stop). I think it's a pretty safe bet the Camaro won't have it, as it would have been somewhere online where they'd be talking about it.

One thing I love that the new Cadillac CR6 is going to have is called "Four Wheel Steering". That's when the back wheels move slightly to the Left if you steer the car to the Right (and Vice Versa), I WISH the Camaro's had that!!![/QUOTE]

GMC had that for awhile on their trucks. It was a bust.

FenwickHockey65 · 05-31-2015, 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suplex

As we all know there are cars now that when you pull up to a red light and stop your car, the engine actually turns itself off. Then, when you press on the gas petal to go again, the engine starts and off you go.

I have not heard yet if the 6th Gen Camaro's will have something like that or not, but I really hope they don't...or if they do...that it can be turned on or off according to what the driver prefers.

The reason I was wondering is because I believe the V6 LT's to shut down two of the cylinders when under light throttle so as to save gas and the whole reason for Start / Stop technology is for the same thing.

I just can't imagine it not being very annoying to have your engine turn off and on several times when driving anywhere.

I will say this though, these new Camaro's have a lot in common with Cadillac's and so far I haven't heard of any "Start/Stop" Caddy's yet either.

Just wondering if anyone else has heard of it, and what you think of cars that have it.

Thanks for your time.

Supposedly at least one powertrain option was supposed to get start/stop but that appears to have fizzled out.

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Originally Posted by Geno

I would think it would be a real pain in start and stop traffic on a 90 degree day or when the temp was 10 below 0.

A/C and heat still run.

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Originally Posted by Angrybird 12

Do these cars have electric Ac compressors? How do you stay cool in traffic if it shuts off the engine every time you stop for more than a few seconds.

Pretty sure they run off the battery.

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Originally Posted by suplex

These are all great points people are making. It's really about the only car technology I am not crazy about (Start/Stop). I think it's a pretty safe bet the Camaro won't have it, as it would have been somewhere online where they'd be talking about it.

One thing I love that the new Cadillac CR6 is going to have is called "Four Wheel Steering". That's when the back wheels move slightly to the Left if you steer the car to the Right (and Vice Versa), I WISH the Camaro's had that!!!

CT6, not CR6.

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Originally Posted by Stex

GMC had that for awhile on their trucks. It was a bust.

Quadrasteer was priced to high heavens, basically nobody could afford it. Plus it was packaged with either Sierra Denali or Sierra 2500, both of which were already expensive trucks.

Angrybird 12 · 05-31-2015, 06:35 PM

I just read this about the Malibu... Interesting.

http://www.greencarreports.com/news/...as-2-batteries

vtirocz · 05-31-2015, 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suplex

As we all know there are cars now that when you pull up to a red light and stop your car, the engine actually turns itself off. Then, when you press on the gas petal to go again, the engine starts and off you go.

I have not heard yet if the 6th Gen Camaro's will have something like that or not, but I really hope they don't...or if they do...that it can be turned on or off according to what the driver prefers.

The reason I was wondering is because I believe the V6 LT's to shut down two of the cylinders when under light throttle so as to save gas and the whole reason for Start / Stop technology is for the same thing.

I just can't imagine it not being very annoying to have your engine turn off and on several times when driving anywhere.

I will say this though, these new Camaro's have a lot in common with Cadillac's and so far I haven't heard of any "Start/Stop" Caddy's yet either.

Just wondering if anyone else has heard of it, and what you think of cars that have it.

Thanks for your time.

I was hoping this technology would make it to the 2016 camaro, but it looks like it won't. It seems like a reasonably cheap and effective way to boost fuel economy in city or stop & go type drive cycles.

SuperSound · 05-31-2015, 08:37 PM

The 8L45 which is to be used for the V6 and T4 has start stop functionality according to the press release several months back. But don't think I saw it mentioned anywhere for the 6th gen. Also most cars have a switch to disable it and the computer will only allow it to operate on certain conditions, hvac settings being one of them. I can tell you I keep mine disabled on my 3 series because I find it annoying.

KMPrenger · 05-31-2015, 09:39 PM

The LGX V6 has this technology, and as stated above, the 8L45 also supports it, so I wouldn't doubt if the V6 Camaro ends up with it. That said, the Camaro being a sports car, they may just not include it. I'm fine with that....in fact I'd likely rather turn it off anyways.

Denis · 06-01-2015, 05:38 AM

I stand watch at the gate coming onto base sometimes and these cars will come in with that start/stop thing. the car literally shuts down if its stopped for less than 3 seconds. I cant imagine the wear and tear on that starter motor.

everytime they pull in and out and I hear the car shut down and start back up I think of the repair cost of replacing starters and how little fuel that is actually saving. not to mention the lag from when I want to start driving to when I actually can because the car is off. Also what happens 6 years from now when the car develops a hard start condition? every time you come to a stop the car is going to crank multiple times before you can leave the traffic light? no thanks...

im glad this feature didn't make it onto the 6th gen.

motorhead · 06-01-2015, 06:41 AM

This has to be the dumbest thing ever thought up for a car. What happens when you go to pull out and it lags or doesn't start at all? How many starters and batteries will these cars go through? Please leave this crap off of any performance car.

05-31-2015, 09:23 AM	#1
suplex Drives: 2011 Coupe, 1LT, A6, No RS Package. Join Date: May 2011 Location: Freehold, NJ. 07728 Posts: 1,042	Start / Stop Technology? Just Wondering... As we all know there are cars now that when you pull up to a red light and stop your car, the engine actually turns itself off. Then, when you press on the gas petal to go again, the engine starts and off you go. I have not heard yet if the 6th Gen Camaro's will have something like that or not, but I really hope they don't...or if they do...that it can be turned on or off according to what the driver prefers. The reason I was wondering is because I believe the V6 LT's to shut down two of the cylinders when under light throttle so as to save gas and the whole reason for Start / Stop technology is for the same thing. I just can't imagine it not being very annoying to have your engine turn off and on several times when driving anywhere. I will say this though, these new Camaro's have a lot in common with Cadillac's and so far I haven't heard of any "Start/Stop" Caddy's yet either. Just wondering if anyone else has heard of it, and what you think of cars that have it. Thanks for your time. __________________ Never Underestimate The Power of Forums

05-31-2015, 09:52 AM	#3
Angrybird 12 7 year Cancer Survivor! Drives: 17 Cruze RS, 07 G6 GT, 99 Astro Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: East Tennessee Posts: 21,547	Since cylinder deactivation is mentioned and auto start - stop has not, I am betting it is not on the Camaro. __________________ Cancer's a bitch! Enjoy life while you can! LIVE, LOVE, DRIVE... The Bird is the word!

05-31-2015, 10:54 AM	#5
Angrybird 12 7 year Cancer Survivor! Drives: 17 Cruze RS, 07 G6 GT, 99 Astro Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: East Tennessee Posts: 21,547	Do these cars have electric Ac compressors? How do you stay cool in traffic if it shuts off the engine every time you stop for more than a few seconds. __________________ Cancer's a bitch! Enjoy life while you can! LIVE, LOVE, DRIVE... The Bird is the word!

05-31-2015, 12:10 PM	#6
suplex Drives: 2011 Coupe, 1LT, A6, No RS Package. Join Date: May 2011 Location: Freehold, NJ. 07728 Posts: 1,042	These are all great points people are making. It's really about the only car technology I am not crazy about (Start/Stop). I think it's a pretty safe bet the Camaro won't have it, as it would have been somewhere online where they'd be talking about it. One thing I love that the new Cadillac CT6 is going to have is called "Four Wheel Steering". That's when the back wheels move slightly to the Left if you steer the car to the Right (and Vice Versa), I WISH the Camaro's had that!!! __________________ Never Underestimate The Power of Forums Last edited by suplex; 06-01-2015 at 06:38 PM.

05-31-2015, 06:35 PM	#9
Angrybird 12 7 year Cancer Survivor! Drives: 17 Cruze RS, 07 G6 GT, 99 Astro Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: East Tennessee Posts: 21,547	I just read this about the Malibu... Interesting. http://www.greencarreports.com/news/...as-2-batteries __________________ Cancer's a bitch! Enjoy life while you can! LIVE, LOVE, DRIVE... The Bird is the word!

05-31-2015, 09:42 AM	#2
HDRDTD Drives: 2013 Triple Black ZL1 Vert M6 ECF Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Trenton, Michigan Posts: 7,047	When I bought my 2015 Malibu. the standard 2.5 4 cyc NA engine DID come with Start/Stop, but the optional 2.0 4cyl turbo does NOT have start/stop, and this is the same turbo 4 that'll be in the new Camaro. I have no idea about the 6cyl or 8cyl.

05-31-2015, 10:51 AM	#4
Geno Drives: 2013 Hyundai Genesis Coupe GT Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Northern Indiana Posts: 258 View My Garage	I would think it would be a real pain in start and stop traffic on a 90 degree day or when the temp was 10 below 0.

05-31-2015, 04:57 PM	#7
Stex Drives: 67 goat, 69 goat ram air III Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: South texas Posts: 1,443	[QUOTE=suplex;8457405]These are all great points people are making. It's really about the only car technology I am not crazy about (Start/Stop). I think it's a pretty safe bet the Camaro won't have it, as it would have been somewhere online where they'd be talking about it. One thing I love that the new Cadillac CR6 is going to have is called "Four Wheel Steering". That's when the back wheels move slightly to the Left if you steer the car to the Right (and Vice Versa), I WISH the Camaro's had that!!![/QUOTE] GMC had that for awhile on their trucks. It was a bust.

05-31-2015, 08:37 PM	#11
SuperSound Drives: '17 Camaro 2SS A8 Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Eastern NC Posts: 5,063 View My Garage	The 8L45 which is to be used for the V6 and T4 has start stop functionality according to the press release several months back. But don't think I saw it mentioned anywhere for the 6th gen. Also most cars have a switch to disable it and the computer will only allow it to operate on certain conditions, hvac settings being one of them. I can tell you I keep mine disabled on my 3 series because I find it annoying. __________________ Current: '17 2SS Hyper Blue, A8, MRC, NPP Past: '99 SS Camaro A4, '73 Camaro 383 A3 "Voices in your head are not considered insider information." 3800 Status - 6/16/16 (Built!) 6000 status - 6/29/16 (Delivered!)

05-31-2015, 09:39 PM	#12
KMPrenger Drives: 16 Camaro SS, 15 Colorado Join Date: May 2009 Location: Jefferson City, Missouri Posts: 13,943	The LGX V6 has this technology, and as stated above, the 8L45 also supports it, so I wouldn't doubt if the V6 Camaro ends up with it. That said, the Camaro being a sports car, they may just not include it. I'm fine with that....in fact I'd likely rather turn it off anyways. __________________ 2016 Camaro 1SS - 8-speed - NPP - Black bowties 2010 Camaro 1LT V6 (Sold. I will miss her!)

06-01-2015, 05:38 AM	#13
Denis Drives: 2010 SS Join Date: May 2012 Location: Yorktown Heights, NY Posts: 7,695 View My Garage	I stand watch at the gate coming onto base sometimes and these cars will come in with that start/stop thing. the car literally shuts down if its stopped for less than 3 seconds. I cant imagine the wear and tear on that starter motor. everytime they pull in and out and I hear the car shut down and start back up I think of the repair cost of replacing starters and how little fuel that is actually saving. not to mention the lag from when I want to start driving to when I actually can because the car is off. Also what happens 6 years from now when the car develops a hard start condition? every time you come to a stop the car is going to crank multiple times before you can leave the traffic light? no thanks... im glad this feature didn't make it onto the 6th gen. __________________

06-01-2015, 06:41 AM	#14
motorhead Drives: Love the one you're with Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Downtown Charlie Brown Posts: 11,850	This has to be the dumbest thing ever thought up for a car. What happens when you go to pull out and it lags or doesn't start at all? How many starters and batteries will these cars go through? Please leave this crap off of any performance car.

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