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KaBoom1701 · 01-07-2019, 06:15 PM

M6 or go buy a Prius....

VRZL113 · 01-09-2019, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by KaBoom1701

M6 or go buy a Prius....

detltu · 01-10-2019, 02:26 PM

Depends on what you are going to do.
Drag race- Auto
Heavily modify- Auto (mostly if you are going to race it- manual can likely take the abuse as others have pointed out)
Road course- manual (could be a toss up)
Drive for fun - manual (IMO)
Daily drive- Auto (IMO)

I don't daily drive my ZL1, but my DD is also a manual transmission. It's second nature and most of the time I don't notice it, but when I hit traffic I wish I had an auto.

Billy10mm · 01-10-2019, 03:26 PM

At no point, in any situation, have I ever found myself saying, "Damn, I wish this car had an automatic transmission". This coming from someone that often spends 3+ hours commuting 25 miles (I work in NYC).

I don't want paddles, I don't want an auto. The fun in driving is in the feedback and engagement. If it doesn't have three pedals, I don't want it.

Balr14 · 01-11-2019, 12:52 AM

I found a nice 2014 ZL1 convert with 26k miles and manual... I was not impressed with the performance. Is there something I should know? The exhaust sound had a funny cadence.

JB'sZL1 · 01-11-2019, 05:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Balr14

I found a nice 2014 ZL1 convert with 26k miles and manual... I was not impressed with the performance. Is there something I should know? The exhaust sound had a funny cadence.

What tires were present? Was the exhaust modded?

myold88 · 01-11-2019, 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Squatch

If you plan on drag racing at all, Auto, other than that, its a toss up.

It's not a toss up when you are stuck in a 2 hour stop and go crawl on an
interstate traffic jam. Automatic is superior in so many ways.

lbls1 · 01-11-2019, 08:26 AM

If I had to do it all over again I would still pick the 6 spd. manual. I've been an auto tranny driver for decades, and there is something to be said for "rowing" the gears and man(handling) the clutch, especially on an accelerated run. On an empty highway the experience is thrilling!

Billy10mm · 01-11-2019, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by myold88

It's not a toss up when you are stuck in a 2 hour stop and go crawl on an
interstate traffic jam. Automatic is superior in so many ways.

Disagree just about as much and as vigorously as a person can possible disagree. An automatic is superior in exactly 0 ways. None. 2 hours in traffic, give me three pedals. I work in NYC and for many years spent 3 hours going each direction and my commute was a tick over 24 miles. Before that I lived in NJ, 9 miles from NYC, and commuted in with a stick there too. Easily 2 hours in each direction unless the stars aligned. Never in my life wished for a car with two pedals.

Wife has an E92 M3 with paddles; a fantastic car in many ways. Utter nonsense that is doesn't have 3 pedals and driving it is only slightly more fun than driving her Subaru B9 Tribeca.

Ajax2112 · 01-11-2019, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Billy10mm

Disagree just about as much and as vigorously as a person can possible disagree. An automatic is superior in exactly 0 ways. None. 2 hours in traffic, give me three pedals. I work in NYC and for many years spent 3 hours going each direction and my commute was a tick over 24 miles. Before that I lived in NJ, 9 miles from NYC, and commuted in with a stick there too. Easily 2 hours in each direction unless the stars aligned. Never in my life wished for a car with two pedals.

Wife has an E92 M3 with paddles; a fantastic car in many ways. Utter nonsense that is doesn't have 3 pedals and driving it is only slightly more fun than driving her Subaru B9 Tribeca.

Where do you work that it takes you 3+ hours to get into the city from Harstdale? What’s your work schedule?

VRZL113 · 01-11-2019, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Balr14

I found a nice 2014 ZL1 convert with 26k miles and manual... I was not impressed with the performance. Is there something I should know? The exhaust sound had a funny cadence.

The convertible ZL1's are a bit heavier than the regular coupes, so it may not feel as quick as you would think 580hp should be.

Balr14 · 01-11-2019, 02:11 PM

Tires on the car I tested where stock summer tires. I wasn't breaking them loose, anyway. The ZL1 convert I drove with automatic was happy to break the tires loose any time you wanted to. I don't think the exhaust has been modified. I'm going back tomorrow and drive it again.

Maybe I've gotten too used to my Porsche. I know a 6 speed manual won't come close to shifting like a dual clutch paddle shift automatic. But I would think the additional 170 hp would more than offset the extra 1000 lbs weight. Unfortunately, that doesn't seem to be the case.

JB'sZL1 · 01-11-2019, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Balr14

Tires on the car I tested where stock summer tires. I wasn't breaking them loose, anyway. The ZL1 convert I drove with automatic was happy to break the tires loose any time you wanted to. I don't think the exhaust has been modified. I'm going back tomorrow and drive it again.

Maybe I've gotten too used to my Porsche. I know a 6 speed manual won't come close to shifting like a dual clutch paddle shift automatic. But I would think the additional 170 hp would more than offset the extra 1000 lbs weight. Unfortunately, that doesn't seem to be the case.

Well, the stock summer tires on a Z in the past week will track like greased plastic. For the life of me, I truly don't understand how you can "test the performance" on a Z with "stock summer tires" in SE Wisconsin January.

Billy10mm · 01-12-2019, 11:17 AM

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Where do you work that it takes you 3+ hours to get into the city from Harstdale? What’s your work schedule?

I worked for ShytiGroup for 7 years at 390 Greenwich (downtown, right off the West Side highway). Would drop the wife off at Ernst & Young in Times Square along the way. It was about an hour slower by car than train -> train -> train, but I despise using public transportation and being stuck to their schedule, so I used a car for the last two years before finally finding a better gig in Stamford, CT (where i am now).

01-07-2019, 06:15 PM	#15
KaBoom1701 KaBoom1701 Drives: 13' ZL1 Red M6 Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: I.E. SoCal (Yucaipa) Posts: 8,630	M6 or go buy a Prius.... __________________ Mods: Roto-Fab Intake, WW Res. kit & Big Gulp Air Scoop, Elite Catch Can, ATI Super Damper & 18% OD Pulley, LF Idler pulley bracket, Metco CC breather, ID850 Injectors, Stainless Power Headers w/ ceramic coating, TR71X Spark Plugs, JMS Fuel Pump Booster, Bo White TB, Tuned by Ted @ Jannetty Racing, Ron Davis HX, D3 Reservoir, Pfadt 1" Springs, Moreno Camber Plates, ZL1 Addons Splitter guard washers, Tow Hook kit & rock guards, Hurst Shifter Billet Plus 6 Speed Short Shifter, ZL1 DRL lighting harness, ZL1 Recaro Seats.

01-10-2019, 02:26 PM	#17
detltu Drives: 1992 Z28 1LE; 2015 Zl1 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Madisonville, LA Posts: 866 View My Garage	Depends on what you are going to do. Drag race- Auto Heavily modify- Auto (mostly if you are going to race it- manual can likely take the abuse as others have pointed out) Road course- manual (could be a toss up) Drive for fun - manual (IMO) Daily drive- Auto (IMO) I don't daily drive my ZL1, but my DD is also a manual transmission. It's second nature and most of the time I don't notice it, but when I hit traffic I wish I had an auto. __________________ 1989 Camaro RS convertible- Sold 1999 Camaro SS - Stolen 2x 1991 Camaro Z28- 1991 Camaro Z28 1LE- 1992 Camaro Z28 1LE- 25th anniversary 2015 Camaro ZL1

01-10-2019, 03:26 PM	#18
Billy10mm Drives: 2014 Camaro 2SS 1LE NPP Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Hartsdale, NY Posts: 1,434	At no point, in any situation, have I ever found myself saying, "Damn, I wish this car had an automatic transmission". This coming from someone that often spends 3+ hours commuting 25 miles (I work in NYC). I don't want paddles, I don't want an auto. The fun in driving is in the feedback and engagement. If it doesn't have three pedals, I don't want it. __________________ My thoughts on some things: Driving Nannies: If I'm that far out of shape on the street, something has gone terribly wrong and by all means Mr. Computer man, come and get me. G2s: Rock throwing is like like a tramp stamp; although problematic, it's a sign of good things to come.

01-11-2019, 08:26 AM	#22
lbls1 Drives: 2002 Camaro SS SOM; 2015 Malibu LTZ Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Queens, NY Posts: 4,022	If I had to do it all over again I would still pick the 6 spd. manual. I've been an auto tranny driver for decades, and there is something to be said for "rowing" the gears and man(handling) the clutch, especially on an accelerated run. On an empty highway the experience is thrilling! __________________ '02 CAMARO SS SOM; 5.7L LS1/FLS6B '08 TBSS AWD Black Granite Metallic '15 Malibu LTZ 2LZ Turbo *'14 CAMARO ZL1 Blue Ray Metallic*

01-11-2019, 12:52 AM	#19
Balr14 Drives: Porsche 997.2 Carrera S cabriolet Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: SE Wisconsin Posts: 62	I found a nice 2014 ZL1 convert with 26k miles and manual... I was not impressed with the performance. Is there something I should know? The exhaust sound had a funny cadence.

01-11-2019, 02:11 PM	#26
Balr14 Drives: Porsche 997.2 Carrera S cabriolet Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: SE Wisconsin Posts: 62	Tires on the car I tested where stock summer tires. I wasn't breaking them loose, anyway. The ZL1 convert I drove with automatic was happy to break the tires loose any time you wanted to. I don't think the exhaust has been modified. I'm going back tomorrow and drive it again. Maybe I've gotten too used to my Porsche. I know a 6 speed manual won't come close to shifting like a dual clutch paddle shift automatic. But I would think the additional 170 hp would more than offset the extra 1000 lbs weight. Unfortunately, that doesn't seem to be the case.