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lionssfan · 01-19-2019, 01:58 PM

look at exhaust videos that are similar to your desired setup. that helped choose. or go the shop doing the work and hear a similar car.

Kleinarms · 01-23-2019, 06:27 PM

hey Lionsfan
where can I get the washer fluid relocation???

15cammedSS · 01-24-2019, 03:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Kleinarms

Planning on upgrades to my 2013 2SS. Long tube headers; want Kooks, Might save $ with texas speed. opinions?
Cam: I understand the basics of how things work. There are a few things I am unsure of. First of all I should say she is a daily driver. BUT, I love the aggressive sound of a big cam, and I want a sizable jump in power. As I understand things I need to change at a min. the springs and push rods. Is there a good package out there that has everything I need?
Thanks

Best advice you could get would be from the person you choose to tune it. The tuner will be able to tune what he feels is the best possible package to fit YOUR needs/wants. I have a pretty aggressive cam that is for boost(no boost yet) and it chops REAL hard but since I'm manual, its not that bad to drive daily. Was a custom grind by my tuner. We built a good relationship and he understood my requests. It sucks at lower rpms with the bucking but as long as your tuner is comfortable with tuning the cam, youll learn how to drive it. Good luck with your quest.

gabe

lazerlemonta · 01-24-2019, 06:57 AM

Honestly your going about mods ass backwards. Gear is what makes these cars work. Cam is great but supporting mods to the cam in a heavy car should be priority. If your just wanting sound then cam away..... Performance gain you want gear (lighter clutch)

Kelly@PCMofNC · 01-24-2019, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Kleinarms

Planning on upgrades to my 2013 2SS. Long tube headers; want Kooks, Might save $ with texas speed. opinions?
Cam: I understand the basics of how things work. There are a few things I am unsure of. First of all I should say she is a daily driver. BUT, I love the aggressive sound of a big cam, and I want a sizable jump in power. As I understand things I need to change at a min. the springs and push rods. Is there a good package out there that has everything I need?
Thanks

Do you have a cold air intake already as well? You would really want that along with headers to make sure you are getting good gains out of your cam.

There are many options out there. If you want a sizeable cam with good lope, make sure that you have a good shop lined up to tune it for you (in person or mail order etc). The tuning will make or break the driveability of a cammed car.

Our Phoenix cam (link) is a very popular LS3 cam. It's about as big as we like to go for a street cam - it's still very driveable, but has great sound. Usually with intake/headers it will do about 470-480rwhp in an LS3 Camaro.

We also sell a complete cam kit to go along with the install (link). It includes what you need; all gaskets, pushrods, timing chain, chain damper, crank bolt, springs, etc.

I would also do a new oil pump (link). Not only is it an upgrade, but several stock LS3 pumps have had issues with the oil pressure relief valve sticking open, leaving you with minimal oil pressure and possibly doing bottom end damage.

Here's what the idle sounds like for this particular cam

Dbunch9 · 01-24-2019, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by lazerlemonta

Honestly your going about mods ass backwards. Gear is what makes these cars work. Cam is great but supporting mods to the cam in a heavy car should be priority. If your just wanting sound then cam away..... Performance gain you want gear (lighter clutch)

I'll second this cause I went straight to big cam and heads and although the mph increased a good amount i cant get out of the whole haha i only gained .3 on my ET on my BEST pass.

zlathim · 01-24-2019, 11:38 AM

Swapping to 4.10s in my M6 made a lot more difference in terms of "feeling a difference" than installing the cam did. I echo the sentiment that doing gears before the engine upgrades is the way to go.

zz430camaro · 01-24-2019, 01:43 PM

In the end you need everything LOL, hell I am going from 3.91 gears to 4.10 because thats all we can stuff in there. These cars need gears, headers and a cam to go quick. As Lazer said, the light cluth obviously will free up wasted power but a lot of people would probably not like the character of them. I went with a LT1-S clutch, it is not light but it does have the same moment of interia as running an aluminum flywheel.

Livernois Motorsports · 01-24-2019, 02:11 PM

If you want that bad ass big cam sound and good drivability then our stage 2c-hi lift cam is the best one to use. Great performance also here is a link to the cam to check out the specs also we have great head and cam specials on these cars also for 52499.99 installed.
Please message me back with any questions or call me at 313-561-5500 my name is Jake
https://www.livernoismotorsports.com/product/LPP801121

lazerlemonta · 01-24-2019, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Livernois Motorsports

If you want that bad ass big cam sound and good drivability then our stage 2c-hi lift cam is the best one to use. Great performance also here is a link to the cam to check out the specs also we have great head and cam specials on these cars also for 52499.99 installed.
Please message me back with any questions or call me at 313-561-5500 my name is Jake
https://www.livernoismotorsports.com/product/LPP801121

Does this package include a car?

zz430camaro · 01-24-2019, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by lazerlemonta

Does this package include a car?

LMAO

lionssfan · 01-24-2019, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by lazerlemonta

Does this package include a car?

lol

SS_CTS-V · 01-24-2019, 08:32 PM

Lol, looked it up. The package is $5249.00 installed.

01-19-2019, 01:58 PM	#15
lionssfan Drives: 2010 2ss camaro Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: mi Posts: 1,184 View My Garage	look at exhaust videos that are similar to your desired setup. that helped choose. or go the shop doing the work and hear a similar car. __________________ 2012 zl1 stock 7000 miles 2010 TVS2300, BTR cam PD stage 3, ID1050 injectors, CHE bronze trunnions, 7.400" pushrods,.660" lift platinum springs, Titanium ret, Zl1 fuel pump, Kooks LT headers, High flow cats, Roto Fab CAI, Corsa exh., Mellings oil pump, HD chain, ls2 damper, all synthetic, BMR control arms, zl1 toe link, BMR cradle mounts, W/bottle relocation, air scoop deflector, Hennessy wheels, two piece rotor, morimoto fogs, DRL harness, coilovers, Heads up install, mgw shifter, slps splitter, slp spoiler, zl1 side skirts, painted strips, debadged, tinted, 2018 emblems. Edit Signature

01-24-2019, 06:57 AM	#18
lazerlemonta Drives: 2010 C6 1LT Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Virginia Posts: 877 View My Garage	Honestly your going about mods ass backwards. Gear is what makes these cars work. Cam is great but supporting mods to the cam in a heavy car should be priority. If your just wanting sound then cam away..... Performance gain you want gear (lighter clutch) __________________ 2010 C6 JET STREAM BLUE BOLT ONS TO THE EXTREME, GPI 281cc HEADS, Darth_V8r SPEC CAM, FAST 102 INTAKE, CRANK SCRAPER, QUARTER MASTER 7.25" CLUTCH, RPM 3.90 STAGE II DIF, Z51 Gear Set AND E85 Best ET 10.58 @ 131.8 stock heads and stock cam 453/445 SAE 10.62@134.82 GPI 281CC Heads, SS4 Cam and X1 Intake Best 1/8 6.80@105.75 Best MPH 134.82

01-24-2019, 11:38 AM	#21
zlathim Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS M6 Join Date: May 2009 Location: Idaho Posts: 726	Swapping to 4.10s in my M6 made a lot more difference in terms of "feeling a difference" than installing the cam did. I echo the sentiment that doing gears before the engine upgrades is the way to go. __________________ GPI SS2; EE E2 catch can; SP 1 7/8" LT Headers w/ hfc; FM AT 3" cat-back; CAI Cold Air Intake; AEM Wideband Tuned by GPI McCleod RXT; MGW flat stick; Ram Clutch slave cylinder & hydraulic adjuster BMR cradle & diff bushings, trailing arms, toe rods & upper control arm bushings Hotchkis sub-frame brace Stop Tech Z-23 brakes 4.10 gears, Eaton Truetrac, LPW diff cover Best 1/4 mile 12.073 @ 115.68 mph 3,300 ft DA

01-24-2019, 01:43 PM	#22
zz430camaro Drives: 2015 1LE Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Cleveland, OH Posts: 1,485	In the end you need everything LOL, hell I am going from 3.91 gears to 4.10 because thats all we can stuff in there. These cars need gears, headers and a cam to go quick. As Lazer said, the light cluth obviously will free up wasted power but a lot of people would probably not like the character of them. I went with a LT1-S clutch, it is not light but it does have the same moment of interia as running an aluminum flywheel. __________________ 2015 1LE, TSP 225/236 113+3, VMAX Throttle Body, CAI with race scoop, GPI Ported Intake, Land Speed Stage 2 Heads, 1-7/8 headers, NPP exhaust, 25% Fluidampr, LT1-S Monster Clutch, 485 RWHP & 444 TQ Last edited by zz430camaro; 01-24-2019 at 02:33 PM.

01-24-2019, 02:11 PM	#23
Livernois Motorsports Drives: 2010 Camaro 454 LSX (SOLD) Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Dearborn Heights, MI Posts: 792	If you want that bad ass big cam sound and good drivability then our stage 2c-hi lift cam is the best one to use. Great performance also here is a link to the cam to check out the specs also we have great head and cam specials on these cars also for 52499.99 installed. Please message me back with any questions or call me at 313-561-5500 my name is Jake https://www.livernoismotorsports.com/product/LPP801121 Last edited by Livernois Motorsports; 01-24-2019 at 02:12 PM. Reason: link

01-23-2019, 06:27 PM	#16
Kleinarms Drives: 2013 2SS 6 spdBorla attack, CAI,LTH Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Maine Posts: 75	hey Lionsfan where can I get the washer fluid relocation???

01-24-2019, 08:32 PM	#27
SS_CTS-V Drives: 2015 SS, 2006 CTS-V (wrecked...) Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Tampa Posts: 142	Lol, looked it up. The package is $5249.00 installed.