04-01-2013, 01:15 PM | #43 |
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Your ss will also not be warrantied if you blow a piston or drop a drive shaft after a hard launch at the track
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04-01-2013, 04:50 PM | #44 |
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I am going to say 11.9 to 12.0. 300lbs is significant. Look at 2012 GT500 vs 2012 Boss 302. 550hp vs 450hp similar times.
the car will have a bit friendly torque crurve and revs high.
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04-01-2013, 05:37 PM | #45 |
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Questions I have:
Will the Z/28 incorporate the ZL1 "no lift shift" algorithms used in the ZL1 drag setup? Will the Z/28 have 5 PTM Modes like the ZL1? Remember Mode 5 was for "prepped drag strip tracks".... We have seen something saying the axles are not as strong as the ZL1's and not intended for drag racing. Is this from a legit source? As we remember, GM touted in a video that they launched the ZL1 with a clutch dump 1,000 times in a row with no breakage. Does the Z/28 have the same rear axle housing as the ZL1 (which is 200 pounds heavier than an SS diff)? I have no doubts the LS7 is very capable of 1/4 mile runs equal to a ZL1. It sounds like it is being denied that glory from a corporate positioning. That brings me to another question, what might be the differences in the clutch itself from a ZL1? We shall learn as we go. It does look to me that both are capable of sub 12 times with small tweaks but it also appears the availability of a LS7 Z/28 will be limited to a pretty short time span before the next Gens are exposed. And with the next Gens being somewhere at a guess of about 3300-3400 lbs (not much more than current Vette weight), the next Gen 6 will undoubtedly be formidable and possibly outlandish never heard of factory missiles. I believe GM is using the next two years (and have been using the last two years) to develop a MONSTER Gen 6 that will make current ZL1 and Gen 5 Z/28 owners think about trading in! Hell, the molds are probably being made already! While all of us have our attention on the "refresh".... LOL
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04-01-2013, 06:34 PM | #46 | |
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I know weight is a great factor as my old 45th LS3 M6 vert felt quite a bit slower than my friends LS3 M6 coupe as there is a few hundred pound difference. The ZL1 feels noticeably quicker than the SS coupe, but its got 150 more horsepower and 3:73's opposed to 3:45's. Mind you the SS has a deeper 1st and 2nd (3.01 and 2.07) compared to the ZL1's (2.66 and 1.78). The Z/28 will have about 75hp less HP and ftlbs of torque than the ZL1, but its a little lighter. I'm guessing the Z/28 will not have the same rear end as the ZL1 as weight was such an issue. A drag car needs a heavier diff than a track car as a drag car has to deal with the enormous torque at launch. It will be a good race Its anybody's guess but I'll bet the ZL1 takes the Z in the 1/4 Anyway you swing it, both cars as awesome cars, they are just designed for different purposes.
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04-02-2013, 06:17 PM | #48 |
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Skipped everyones posts, but whatever.
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We talked shit cs he started shit, challenged me and another 5.0 to run. This was his run right after. We both ran same lane right after. I ran a 10.6 letting out and buddy ran a 10.9 n/a. He left soon we ran. Just Another 700whp DD 5.0 |
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04-03-2013, 09:27 PM | #50 |
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Some people might get 11.90's on a good run. Its still a 3800lb + car with 500 hp.
GT500 weighs the same with 662hp and 638 lb/ft torque and most run 11.70's stock But it still comes down to power to weight...so 11.3's-11.5's stock arent gonna happen unless GM's idea of 500+ hp is 550+ at the wheels |
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