And so the season is started....... NFL underway.

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Originally Posted by CJ Man

Wow what else is new!

The model of consistency

[CJ Man]

Some would say cheating!

[3 SS's]

Originally Posted by CJ Man

Some would say cheating!

yes...that "some " would be fans of teams that are consistently beaten by the Pats, sent home early in the playoffs by the Pats....some on multiple ocassions ....and fans of division rivals who can't get over the fact that the Pats have owned the division for over a decade... just sayin

And for the record....since the ALLEGED "cheating" was halted

The Pats have won the division 4 of 5 years...the year they didn't were still 11-5
and have a combined 68-20 record with 4 yrs of playoffs and 2 Superbowl appearances....yeah, yeah, I know..."they couldn't win the Superbowl without cheating"
Any true fan of the sport, knows that's not the truth, got to play the game & need the breaks to go your way.... you know, Tyree catch, Welker drop....etc....etc....the haters can keep on grasping at that cheating thing though

[PoorMansCamaro]

I dont think its grasping, they cheated AND got caught. Its the truth, whether pats fans want to believe it, and just more ammo for some good ol ribbing

[CJ Man]

Wow all those accomplishments but no rings since the scandal! So essentially you are in the same class as the other 30 non super bowl champs. There is a reason why people hate the pats, it's because of their c0cky fans who expect everyone to bow to them. It's the nfl the pendulum swings in other directions every decade. Truth is the pats window will close soon!

Also regards to cheating, I personally don't think that but, part of me still thinks they still video tape their opponents. They got McDaniels back who was fired for doing it in Denver. Where did he learn that tactic from? Hmmmmmm

[3 SS's]

Originally Posted by PoorMansCamaro

I dont think its grasping, they cheated AND got caught. Its the truth, whether pats fans want to believe it, and just more ammo for some good ol ribbing

From this day on....you shall be called .......Some

Originally Posted by CJ Man

Wow all those accomplishments but no rings since the scandal! So essentially you are in the same class as the other 30 non super bowl champs. There is a reason why people hate the pats, it's because of their c0cky fans who expect everyone to bow to them. It's the nfl the pendulum swings in other directions every decade. Truth is the pats window will close soon!

Also regards to cheating, I personally don't think that but, part of me still thinks they still video tape their oppenants. They got McDaniels back who was fired for doing it in Denver. Where did he learn that tactic from? Hmmmmmm

Noooo the other 30 aren't either there...or on the doorstep year in...and year out...there's a few that come around every couple years or so....and then there's ......well you know, Dolphins and such

I expect this at the bottom of all your replys please

[CJ Man]

You know it's kind of funny......players and owners say that the two owners more than any helped end the lock out.........Robert Kraft and the Mara/tisch family. Who played in the super bowl.......just saying.


(don't actually believe it but it makes you wonder)

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Originally Posted by CJ Man

You know it's kind of funny......players and owners say that the two owners more than any helped end the lock out.........Robert Kraft and the Mara/tisch family. Who played in the super bowl.......just saying.


(don't actually believe it but it makes you wonder)

I don't see your

[BackinBlackSS/RS]

Giants 21 Patriots 17 In case you missed it.

[PoorMansCamaro]

[BackinBlackSS/RS]

Originally Posted by PoorMansCamaro

Worth another look.