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Orange Crush 1LE · 10-26-2013, 02:11 PM

My Supercars are dialed in perfectly for the track, but I'm going to take a break from tracking for the winter and want to dial down the damping. Interested in the best ride, not best performance for the street. I'll dial them stiff again for the track before my next event.

Anyone have any suggestions for optimal damping for the street? My car's only lowered 1/2" front and 1" rear, so not much risk of bottoming out.

Thanks

SPCBA · 10-26-2013, 11:06 PM

Ask Mr Pete.

I have a question why the ride height is set to take away the natural rake of the car?

So Cal Camaro · 10-27-2013, 11:38 AM

You have to play with them to see what you like for road feel, but on the street I have them softer, top adjustment 16 from full soft, canister 12 from full soft, front/rear same settings....still has some road feel, but ride quality is good...

Orange Crush 1LE · 10-27-2013, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by SPCBA

Ask Mr Pete.

I have a question why the ride height is set to take away the natural rake of the car?

Good question for Jedi Master Pete. During install, we initially lowered it 1" R and 7/8" F, but per Pete's advice for optimum handling we lowered it by 1" R and 1/2" F (with stock tires/wheels). Good thing, because with my 315/30-18 track tires, the total drop is 2.2" R and 1.7" front. That is slammed, wouldn't want it any lower.

Orange Crush 1LE · 10-27-2013, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by So Cal Camaro

You have to play with them to see what you like for road feel, but on the street I have them softer, top adjustment 16 from full soft, canister 12 from full soft, front/rear same settings....still has some road feel, but ride quality is good...

Thanks! I'll try that for initial settings.

Dyk-NO · 10-27-2013, 12:04 PM

If you're running the 305/30/19 wheel/tire setup that Pedders has, they dropped the front 15mm and 25mm rears. I think

SPCBA · 10-27-2013, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Orange Crush 1LE

Good question for Jedi Master Pete. During install, we initially lowered it 1" R and 7/8" F, but per Pete's advice for optimum handling we lowered it by 1" R and 1/2" F (with stock tires/wheels). Good thing, because with my 315/30-18 track tires, the total drop is 2.2" R and 1.7" front. That is slammed, wouldn't want it any lower.

My i ask what your ride is height is with track wheels? Curious because i kind of did the same thing. Lowered car then put on shorter track tires and car was to low, had axle issues

JDP Sales · 10-28-2013, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by SPCBA

My i ask what your ride is height is with track wheels? Curious because i kind of did the same thing. Lowered car then put on shorter track tires and car was to low, had axle issues

Lowering the car with shorter tires does not effect the suspension. It's when you drop below an inch via springs or coilovers that you start having axle problems.

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Orange Crush 1LE · 10-28-2013, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by SPCBA

My i ask what your ride is height is with track wheels? Curious because i kind of did the same thing. Lowered car then put on shorter track tires and car was to low, had axle issues

Blake, I haven't had a chance to take a measurement, but what Tyler said is the case. I didn't adjust the coilovers at all when I installed my 18" wheels. The suspension drop is still 1/2" F and 1" R. Then the smaller track tires drop the car another 1.2", so total drop is about 1.7" F and 2.2" R. Hope that helps. I can still take the measurement if you like.

What axle problems are you having? I have an issue too, but it was there before I dropped the car. At 90+ MPH, there's a pretty good vibration coming from somewhere, it sounds like drivetrain in the rear. Not sure what it is. It's as if something is out of balance in the differential or the half shaft assemblies. It has me concerned. So far no problems other than the noise. If anyone has any thoughts, please let me know.

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Originally Posted by Dyk-NO

If you're running the 305/30/19 wheel/tire setup that Pedders has, they dropped the front 15mm and 25mm rears. I think

Yep, that's pretty much the same as 1/2" F and 1" R. For optimum handling, that's the drop.

the rich dude · 10-28-2013, 05:07 PM

What happens with the axles? Is there a fix? I plan on dropping my car at least 2" and plan on making 650-700rwhp

Thanks!!!

Orange Crush 1LE · 10-29-2013, 02:02 AM

Blake, more info on ride height. With the 315/30-18s, see attached pics.

1st pic: Front fender 27" above floor
2nd pic: Rear fender 27" above floor

3rd pic: Rocker near front 3-3/8" above floor (painted portion of rocker)
4th pic: Rocker near rear, below door seam 3-7/8" above floor (painted portion)

You can see from the rocker measurements, there's a subtle rake with the front a little lower, but the car is nearly level front to rear.

the rich dude · 10-30-2013, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by the rich dude

What happens with the axles? Is there a fix? I plan on dropping my car at least 2" and plan on making 650-700rwhp

Thanks!!!

no one??

VR Baron · 10-30-2013, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by the rich dude

no one??

More the 1" the axels are not at the right angle. One member out here had it lowered more and broke both on a roval track

the rich dude · 10-30-2013, 10:14 PM

is there a fix for this?? I see tons of people with cars lowered more than 1". WHy are they not complaining of broken axles?

10-26-2013, 02:11 PM	#1
Orange Crush 1LE Drives: 2022 SS 1LE Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 1,086	Pedders Supercar Coilovers - street settings? My Supercars are dialed in perfectly for the track, but I'm going to take a break from tracking for the winter and want to dial down the damping. Interested in the best ride, not best performance for the street. I'll dial them stiff again for the track before my next event. Anyone have any suggestions for optimal damping for the street? My car's only lowered 1/2" front and 1" rear, so not much risk of bottoming out. Thanks __________________ Sold but not forgotten! Pedders Supercar Coilovers, 32mm rear sway bar,bushings; APR wing and splitter Forged 416 road course stroker. 514 RWHP, 497 RW Ft-Lb 1 Camaro, 75 Vipers: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=393697 Buttonwillow Raceway: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=389086

10-26-2013, 11:06 PM	#2
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10-27-2013, 11:38 AM	#3
So Cal Camaro So Cal Race Team Drives: 2013 Camaro Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Sunny So Cal Posts: 3,584	You have to play with them to see what you like for road feel, but on the street I have them softer, top adjustment 16 from full soft, canister 12 from full soft, front/rear same settings....still has some road feel, but ride quality is good... __________________

10-27-2013, 12:04 PM	#6
Dyk-NO Trust me I'm a Scientist. Drives: My wifey ;P Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 1,118 View My Garage	If you're running the 305/30/19 wheel/tire setup that Pedders has, they dropped the front 15mm and 25mm rears. I think __________________ "From ZERO to a Tire-Burning HERO!" Mods: RotoFab CAI, SW Headers, HiFlo Cats, Borla Atak Catback, Nightfury Cam, Ported Heads,Intake,TB, melling pump, Morosso Oil Separator.

10-29-2013, 02:02 AM	#11
Orange Crush 1LE Drives: 2022 SS 1LE Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 1,086	Blake, more info on ride height. With the 315/30-18s, see attached pics. 1st pic: Front fender 27" above floor 2nd pic: Rear fender 27" above floor 3rd pic: Rocker near front 3-3/8" above floor (painted portion of rocker) 4th pic: Rocker near rear, below door seam 3-7/8" above floor (painted portion) You can see from the rocker measurements, there's a subtle rake with the front a little lower, but the car is nearly level front to rear. Attached Images __________________ Sold but not forgotten! Pedders Supercar Coilovers, 32mm rear sway bar,bushings; APR wing and splitter Forged 416 road course stroker. 514 RWHP, 497 RW Ft-Lb 1 Camaro, 75 Vipers: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=393697 Buttonwillow Raceway: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=389086

10-28-2013, 05:07 PM	#10
the rich dude Drives: Getting 2010 Camaro Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Vancouver Posts: 1,149	What happens with the axles? Is there a fix? I plan on dropping my car at least 2" and plan on making 650-700rwhp Thanks!!!

10-30-2013, 10:14 PM	#14
the rich dude Drives: Getting 2010 Camaro Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Vancouver Posts: 1,149	is there a fix for this?? I see tons of people with cars lowered more than 1". WHy are they not complaining of broken axles?