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RLHMARINES · 12-03-2018, 09:45 PM

The '19 Ram has been in production since the beginning of the year but the '19 Silverado has been on the market less than a couple of months so it has not yet gotten up to full production so the Ram has more truck momentum for the new models than GM.

lbls1 · 12-04-2018, 09:26 AM

Chevy cleaned up the Silverado front end and body for '20. This generation marks the very first time that I actually prefer the dodge and ford designs over Chevy. Chevrolet and GM will need to be careful going forward with designing their cars and trucks. What looks good as a sketch may or may not work as well as a realistic model. If this isn't done yet, then I also believe that Chevy and GM should have design "crit" sessions, where unaffiliated jurists can give honest feedback and criticism to proposed designs.

NW-99SS · 12-04-2018, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by lbls1

Chevy cleaned up the Silverado front end and body for '20. This generation marks the very first time that I actually prefer the dodge and ford designs over Chevy. Chevrolet and GM will need to be careful going forward with designing their cars and trucks. What looks good as a sketch may or may not work as well as a realistic model. If this isn't done yet, then I also believe that Chevy and GM should have design "crit" sessions, where unaffiliated jurists can give honest feedback and criticism to proposed designs.

Well...

https://jalopnik.com/2020-chevrolet-...eep-1830846265

KMPrenger · 12-04-2018, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by RLHMARINES

I'm liking these two big blue beauties at my local...6.2 LTZ rides and pulls strong.

The only Silverado I think I like quite a bit is the High Country, and I've felt that way since they were first revealed. But the rest...not so much.

The WT and Custom, CustomTrail Boss trucks look terrible with that "LOOK I'M A CHEVROLET" grill on them. (yes I know other makers are doing it too).

The LTs are bit better, but damn, I feel like I'm drowning in chrome when I look at the front of an LTZ. The RST isn't terrible, but I want more variations in my colors. Not a huge fan of the blacked out look on the LT Trail Boss...I can deal with it, but I'd rather not have that look. The High Country on the other hand has a good balance of color and bling.

I don't think its possible to configure an LT or LTZ to have that High Country front end, and that's a damn shame. I realize they want the highest trimmed truck to look the best, but if they really wanted to sell more, they'd allow options on the lower trimmed trucks so they can look good also, instead of just bland.

lbls1 · 12-06-2018, 10:20 AM

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Well...

https://jalopnik.com/2020-chevrolet-...eep-1830846265

I saw this, and that's why I made my previous statement. I am upset that the beautiful design of the '14-'18 is being lost to the monstrous current design. I'll give GMC some credit, as they fought really hard to retain some of Sierra's beauty, but the new pick-up will hurt them as well. The Sierra was GM's best looking pick-up IMO until the '19s. I'm hoping that the buying public will not crucify GM for this departure.

NW-99SS · 12-06-2018, 03:27 PM

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I saw this, and that's why I made my previous statement. I am upset that the beautiful design of the '14-'18 is being lost to the monstrous current design. I'll give GMC some credit, as they fought really hard to retain some of Sierra's beauty, but the new pick-up will hurt them as well. The Sierra was GM's best looking pick-up IMO until the '19s. I'm hoping that the buying public will not crucify GM for this departure.

Internet reception has been much worse than the 2019 halt-ton introductions...the High Country got released today, it appears slightly better, but still a disgusting design IMO.

Will be holding onto my 17 Sierra Denali for an indefinite amount of time...

lbls1 · 12-06-2018, 03:49 PM

^^This is not good. Chevy is in store for a very hard time next year. I would think that Chevy and GM could not afford to have a bomb design for their truck. If it were me I would make this design the shortest run that they've done in their history. If necessary, I would also scout out new design talent.

Edit: I love the Sierra Denali. I'm a little disappointed that I'm not in the market (yet) for another new vehicle, else I would be looking at a Sierra now.

lbls1 · 12-06-2018, 03:58 PM

Also, GM and Chevy have recovered from bombs in the past. The '04 Malibu was one. Chevy turned it around very nicely in '08. This truck will need a new design very soon (like tomorrow).

Ryanbabz71 · 12-09-2018, 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by RLHMARINES

I'm liking these two big blue beauties at my local...6.2 LTZ rides and pulls strong.

I want a trailboss with the 6.2 but at the moment isn’t available. The Chevy LTZ has to much chrome for my liking. I can’t stand the HC leather or wheels. Might have to go with a GMC trailboss (which I have a few dislikes also) or just keep my 2010

Ryan B.

NW-99SS · 12-10-2018, 12:42 PM

Been looking at the half-tons closer in person over the last weekend.

The GMC is hands down better looking than the Chevy.

Any Silverado with the chrome bumper looks terrible. The side fender swoop and mirrors are as bad in person as in photos.

The Sierra Denali was ok. Front end is too big and bulky, side profile is slightly better than the Chevs without the weird dropping fender line. Fender badge is gross, looks like a Titan badge take-off. Need to check out the tailgate and function it to make a comment.

*DGthe3* · 12-10-2018, 07:05 PM

Not GM related but ... Fen, were you the Florida cop that got bit by a lemur recently?
https://www.autoblog.com/2018/12/09/...er-dui-arrest/

FenwickHockey65 · 12-10-2018, 08:58 PM

Hahaha no, but it happened in my troop. Apparently they had no idea wtf a lemur was, I think one of them radioed it in as a "weird looking cat."

NW-99SS · 12-11-2018, 07:57 AM

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Hahaha no, but it happened in my troop. Apparently they had no idea wtf a lemur was, I think one of them radioed it in as a "weird looking cat."

JhonnyGTR · 12-11-2018, 08:51 AM

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Hahaha no, but it happened in my troop. Apparently they had no idea wtf a lemur was, I think one of them radioed it in as a "weird looking cat."

Lmfao

12-03-2018, 09:45 PM	#5979
RLHMARINES 1st Civ. Div. Drives: Camaroless for now...RIP "Big SexZ" Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Savannah, Ga Posts: 2,726	The '19 Ram has been in production since the beginning of the year but the '19 Silverado has been on the market less than a couple of months so it has not yet gotten up to full production so the Ram has more truck momentum for the new models than GM. __________________ Swift....Silent....Deadly

12-04-2018, 09:26 AM	#5980
lbls1 Drives: 2002 Camaro SS SOM; 2015 Malibu LTZ Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Queens, NY Posts: 4,021	Chevy cleaned up the Silverado front end and body for '20. This generation marks the very first time that I actually prefer the dodge and ford designs over Chevy. Chevrolet and GM will need to be careful going forward with designing their cars and trucks. What looks good as a sketch may or may not work as well as a realistic model. If this isn't done yet, then I also believe that Chevy and GM should have design "crit" sessions, where unaffiliated jurists can give honest feedback and criticism to proposed designs. __________________ '02 CAMARO SS SOM; 5.7L LS1/FLS6B '08 TBSS AWD Black Granite Metallic '15 Malibu LTZ 2LZ Turbo *'14 CAMARO ZL1 Blue Ray Metallic*

12-06-2018, 03:49 PM	#5985
lbls1 Drives: 2002 Camaro SS SOM; 2015 Malibu LTZ Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Queens, NY Posts: 4,021	^^This is not good. Chevy is in store for a very hard time next year. I would think that Chevy and GM could not afford to have a bomb design for their truck. If it were me I would make this design the shortest run that they've done in their history. If necessary, I would also scout out new design talent. Edit: I love the Sierra Denali. I'm a little disappointed that I'm not in the market (yet) for another new vehicle, else I would be looking at a Sierra now. __________________ '02 CAMARO SS SOM; 5.7L LS1/FLS6B '08 TBSS AWD Black Granite Metallic '15 Malibu LTZ 2LZ Turbo *'14 CAMARO ZL1 Blue Ray Metallic*

12-06-2018, 03:58 PM	#5986
lbls1 Drives: 2002 Camaro SS SOM; 2015 Malibu LTZ Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Queens, NY Posts: 4,021	Also, GM and Chevy have recovered from bombs in the past. The '04 Malibu was one. Chevy turned it around very nicely in '08. This truck will need a new design very soon (like tomorrow). __________________ '02 CAMARO SS SOM; 5.7L LS1/FLS6B '08 TBSS AWD Black Granite Metallic '15 Malibu LTZ 2LZ Turbo *'14 CAMARO ZL1 Blue Ray Metallic*

12-10-2018, 12:42 PM	#5988
NW-99SS Drives: 1999 Camaro SS M6 - SBE LS1 Join Date: Jun 2018 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 1,166	Been looking at the half-tons closer in person over the last weekend. The GMC is hands down better looking than the Chevy. Any Silverado with the chrome bumper looks terrible. The side fender swoop and mirrors are as bad in person as in photos. The Sierra Denali was ok. Front end is too big and bulky, side profile is slightly better than the Chevs without the weird dropping fender line. Fender badge is gross, looks like a Titan badge take-off. Need to check out the tailgate and function it to make a comment. __________________ 1999 Camaro SS 6M - SBE LS1 1963 Corvette GrandSport - ZZ502 4M 2017 Denali 1500 6.2 2017 Yukon Denali 6.2

12-10-2018, 07:05 PM	#5989
DGthe3 Moderator.ca Drives: 05 Grand Am GT Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Niagara, Canada Posts: 25,372	Not GM related but ... Fen, were you the Florida cop that got bit by a lemur recently? https://www.autoblog.com/2018/12/09/...er-dui-arrest/ __________________ Note, if I've gotten any facts wrong in the above, just ignore any points I made with them __________________ Originally Posted by FbodFather My sister's dentist's brother's cousin's housekeeper's dog-breeder's nephew sells coffee filters to the company that provides coffee to General Motors...... ........and HE WOULD KNOW!!!! __________________ Camaro Fest sub-forum

12-10-2018, 08:58 PM	#5990
FenwickHockey65 General Motors Aficionado Drives: 2023 GMC Canyon, 2020 Colorado Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Florida Posts: 37,371 View My Garage	Hahaha no, but it happened in my troop. Apparently they had no idea wtf a lemur was, I think one of them radioed it in as a "weird looking cat." __________________ 2023 GMC Canyon Elevation 2020 Chevrolet Colorado W/T Extended Cab (State-issued)